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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts 
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Is there more power if a shin hits someone in the head with its surface area much larger than a fist? Can the lack of speed make up in weight, hardness and mass?
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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You were not a physics major were you?
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18036 Posts
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Hooks rattle the brain sideways and do not need to be as powerful as a straight punch in order to KO an opponent.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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Which of most of the big fights were fixed Slim?
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On Nov 23, 2015, magicfish wrote: Why is a .45 so devastating? It is moving slower and is definitely heavier than most handgun projectiles. This debate with guns has been going on a long time and has yet to be resolved. Which is more devastating lighter and faster or heavier and slower?
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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Not the same thing and what debate?
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3624 Posts
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On Nov 23, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: Good point! |
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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So now mass has nothing to do with anything.....wow!
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts
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On Nov 24, 2015, rowdymagi5 wrote: True - but misleading. What we are saying here is that a punch to the head is more devastating than a kick to the head. In the video the kickboxer kicked to the waist. At waist height the kick is more powerful. At head height, no.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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On Nov 24, 2015, acesover wrote: FWIW Isaac Newton said: Force = Mass x Acceleration
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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So there is only so much damage a fist can damage due to mass times acceleration? Is it possible that a heavier leg going slower could do more damage due to its mass?
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts
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Lunatik, the physics are almost immaterial. The fact is that if you analyze fights, head kicks are less devastating that punches to the head. Because a foot or a fist is not a projectile, but is attached to a complex system of levers, Newtons Force = Mass x Acceleration is not the only thing in play.
At waist height the foot is more powerful but a punch still hurts. At knee height a kick is devastating, but a punch is laughable. Another factor is where exactly the punch or kick lands. If it hits on the point of the chin the head rocks back and the knockout is almost inevitable. But if it lands on the centre of the cheekbone you can fairly much shake it off. The kick in this fight landed on the neck, again rocking the skull and doing other damage. But Rousey was out on her feet; a tap on the chest or a leg sweep would have brought her down just as certainly.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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Yes it is not about one equation. It is about a lot of different things not dissimilar to a golf swing or tennis racket swing. Getting stuck in your head on "a leg is bigger", which is essentially your point, really misses what is going on.
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts
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On Nov 25, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: Like Danny, said, either a kick or a feather. |
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts
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I've never seen anyone who's been unconscious stand up.
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts
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On Nov 25, 2015, lunatik wrote: I've never seen an elephant in the wild. Doesn't mean they aren't there.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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Http://everythingfight.blogspot.com/2010......nch.html
Maybe this will help. From the article. "Ok, I am not a scientist or some medical guy but I know a lot about this phenomenon called the knockout. Through research, experimentation and painful experience, I have gained enough knockout knowledge and will express it here in very simple terms. A knockout is something that occurs after a physical blow which renders a person on the receiving end immobilized or disoriented. Although not necessary, a knockout often implies unconsciousness. Therefore, any kind of hit to any part of a body that stops an opponent from doing functional movements for a relative amount of time is considered as a knockout. A body punch can knock the wind out of you; a roundhouse kick to the face can make you see stars." Can we move past the unconsciousness part please? Now you are fixating on the mass of the leg like you did with the unconsciousness part and it is blinding you.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Perhaps we should question the entertainment value of brain injury.
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