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discjockey Elite user 451 Posts |
Yes, I too love the dual reality principle!
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sludge Special user milton keynes, england 530 Posts |
Some of you might be interested to know that the "dual reality" principle is not a recent invention, Bob Somerfield for one was using it in the 1950s.
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lane99 Elite user 421 Posts |
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On 2004-03-03 13:41, shrink wrote: The fact that the picture drawn was a tractor (which is very similar to a "train") certainly indicates to me DB is aware of Lee Earle's trick. However, one (in my mind) stark difference between the two is that DB announces to all that nothing has been set up beforehand with the participant (and the participant confirms this). In fact, he asks the participant his name when he chooses him from the audience and says "nice to meet you". So, if was WAS Lee Earle's method, it should have fallen somewhat flat with the participant (whereas in LE's method, the participant is just as convinced as the audience of the miracle). But since the participant DID appear to be quite mystified, I wonder if this was something other than LE's method and PSW. Kamiruaga says in a post above that he could do it without PSW. And if there is such a method, and it would leave the participant as convinced as the audience, then that would be something wonderous to know. |
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Lord Of The Horses Inner circle 5406 Posts |
First, I don't use Lee method but I don't know why a participant should not be "quite mystified" by that method.
Second, all I will say here is ONLY that there are indeed ways to accmplish that without pre-show AND - pay attention - ways to accomplish that with pre-show that leave you free of asking the name of the volunteer and of having him/her confirm that nothing was set-up beforehand (even if in reality it was!) Third, because I know of various methods to accomplish exactly that... this does not mean in any way that Derren was using one of the methods I know of. He could have as well being using a totally "different" method... Or not
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The Gentleman Regular user SCOTCHLAND 102 Posts |
That winky smiley is pretty creepy.
Thanks, Sludgle, I didn't think it was a "new" principle, I just meant it was the first time I became aware of it. JuRim: Derren works with entranced subjects frequently, aye, and he works with preshow work sometimes, because you'd have to. He does not use stooges other than those who are unaware they are being such; such as in Dual Reality effects. Looking back at the previous series, I only just got him calling his aide "Fernando" prior to a chirstmas-tree trick. Cute. |
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Pasq Elite user Lance Rench-Hausen. 417 Posts |
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On 2004-02-28 19:28, Jonathan wrote: Derren also approaches the participant saying 'You, who's "steering" [staring] at me' - Just for the record.
Sparrow in a barrow.
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Harry H Inner circle 1526 Posts |
Nothing you can say subliminally is going to make someone draw a tractor!! Really....
Saw Luke Jermay make someone draw a tree at Blackpool but that's probably best you can hope for. |
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Pasq Elite user Lance Rench-Hausen. 417 Posts |
Yeah, I knew that ...
Sparrow in a barrow.
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nirve New user 18 Posts |
To me, this seems very simular to Banachek's Touches. I'd hate to give anything away, because I absolutely love the effect, and I highly recommend buying it, but it's the same principle of dual realities.
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Watched it again today..wow!
If I were a betting man id put my money on pre-show due to the answer the guy gave at the end. |
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c4rlito New user 34 Posts |
There are many different ways to accomplish this. I think though more importantly that focus should be on letting something like this inspire you rather than to work out the exact metholodgy. This will no doubt lead to sometyhing far more rewarding and original.
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
Wow ! 7 years later, that's an interesting post ;-)
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Davit Sicseek Inner circle 1818 Posts |
Must have been googling "how does the derren brown tractor effect work?" instead of doing something far more rewarding and original.
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bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2672 Posts |
Another one of these threads that should be buried in Inner Thoughts.
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GothicBen Veteran user England 353 Posts |
Or buried altogether...
'Derren does it this way!' 'Oh no, he doesn't!' 'Where can I learn this technique?' I'd imagine Derren uses the same techniques EVERYONE uses, only he has a team of expert writers, producers, editors and consultants to assist him. |
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Mind illusionist Special user Australia 949 Posts |
Lol funny thread this. I like what was said about framing the most, and its true. DB has changed the landscape and presentation of mentalism big time. And that's what sets him apart, making him arguably the greatest performer of his time.
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Lukasz P Loyal user 230 Posts |
If you want understand his method you must learn from his teachers . Some magician told me this and I really believe him .
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
...this reminds me of something - I used to really like tractors, but they always made me feel hot...so I stopped liking them, and now I'm an extractor fan....
I've asked to be banned
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MatCult Inner circle 1518 Posts |
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On Jul 23, 2014, chlopiec wrote: Wow ! 9 years later, that's an interesting post ;-)
"Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business."
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cpbartak Special user Mooresville, NC 941 Posts |
He's only got 14 posts. how else is he going to quickly dredge up 50 if not by dragging up old threads with short statements
Some people hear voices.. Some see invisible people.. Others have no imagination whatsoever.
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