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Skitch
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I was wondering what would be the difference from a Marked Deck to a stacked deck? Now I know the simple difference, but I guess what I am asking for is effects and how the specttor plays a part. I don't have either a marked deck or a stacking system, but I would like to know the difference. Also, is it good to have both? Or if you have one, is the other not needed?

Thank you.
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Think about who can handle the stacked deck, or what kind of mixing can be done with it then compare that with who can handle the marked deck and what kind of mixing can be done with that.
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HI Skitch
If you want to know something about the difference between stacked and marked deck, you should read the book of Martin Joyal "The Six-Hour Memorized Deck" (Hermetic Press). There is much stuff, also the books of Simon Aronson give you enough ideas to play with a stacked deck.

For marked deck effects, read "Marked For Life" by Kirk Charles. This book is much better than the works of Boris Wild, who modifies only the Lesley marking technique.

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Doug Dyment has a wonderful essay on stacked decks on his website - I recommend you read it.

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I can't seem to find the site. What's the link?
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Bob Cassidy has a great "memorized deck" routine on his video "Mental Miracles". In the book "Mind Myth, and Magick, T.A. Waters explains a few routines with a marked deck, a few routines with a memorized stack, as well as I believe a routine that utilizes both the stack and marking system.
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Mark Roberts
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<Q>Bob Cassidy has a great "memorized deck" routine on his video "Mental Miracles".</Q>

Got to second you on that! The speed with which you can do this and the reactions from the audience are astounding.

I have to say that I am a great fan of Bob Cassidy's stuff. In the words of the great man himself, "everything has a logical disconnect"
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I can tell you that if you're looking for a stacked deck that has numerous applications and is very easy to learn (I did it in about 15 minutes), try Osterlind's Breakthrough Card System. Fantastic stuff!
I just used that set up to do the Corinda routine from Richard's L&L video, the guy was just floored!


http://www.osterlindmysteries.com

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Mark Roberts
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For me you can't really beat simplicity and the Si Stebbins Stack is simplicity itself.

Admittedly, I don't do a lot of card routines within my performance but for what I do use, this stack is ideal.
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Read Boris Wild's book on the marked and memorized deck. He combines both concepts into some very powerful effects. Most notable is his "Miracle," a version of a card at any number.
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Both invaluable if used properly.

Do some research, read up on both.
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I can attest to the power of Boris' "Miracle". I added that as the ending to a routine that I learned from Dan Tong to make a 3 part routine that builds on itself each step. "Miracle" is the ending and gets a tremendous response.

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Si Stebbins is the best place to start
You may find that that is all you need
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Have to agree Teejay. It's the only one that I currently use.
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