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Apparently me to.
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The original trilogy that Lucas wrote included nine episodes for Star Wars, so no ... what you saw in the cinema was never meant to be the "ending" of Star Wars.

When Lucas went to film these, he knew the first three were not as exciting as the next three ... therefore he skipped them and jumped straight into episode four where the action started - people that complain about the first three movies not being as good are obviously exposing themselves as "fake" star wars fan. A true fan knew going to the theater that these episodes were the more boring set-up parts for the original trilogy and would have never expected them to be as good (yet alone better).

The last three episodes were leased to Dark Horse Comics which were published in six comic books ... it has been stated that the Disney movies will not follow Lucas' original script. The comics were set immediately after the destruction of the Death Star while the Disney movies will be set thirty years after that event, but I suspect from the trailers that some of the same story line is still in place.

-JoeJoe



Actually the plan was for twelve. The last three being unfilmable (even in Lucas' opinion) as they were akin in style and story to the last 20 minutes of 2001.

But even Lucas got off book. The original intent was to have C-3PO and R2-D2 be the thread that held the movies together. They were the story tellers and the movie was seen through their eyes. You can see part of this in Return of the Jedi when C-3PO relates their adventures, complete with sound effects, to the rapt Ewoks.

However having Annakin be the creator of C-3PO and having built him on Tatooine means that somewhere along the line his memory is wiped as when he returns to his home world in The New hope he has no memory of the place nor of Obi-Wan.

I think Georges mind wandered a bit in the decade between the two sets of films.
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Sorry but most think of "A New Hope" as the first one.

I do. And now that my son is watching the movies, it gets really confusing when we both talk about "the first movie" or "the fourth movie." I've started referring to them by episode number, just so we know exactly which one we're talking about.
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The force is strong with this thread.

I think JJ Abrams will make a great film; hopefully better than George in regards to the prequels.

I didn't care much for the prequels, but they kinda grow on you.

At first I hated the Anakin character, but it makes sense that a whiny kid would grow up to be Darth Vader.

I can see how the droids were supposed to be the thread linking the stories together, kind of like the robot novels by Asimov. Pretty cool.

I can't wait for next Thursday!

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On Dec 11, 2015, JoeJoe wrote:

The original trilogy that Lucas wrote included nine episodes for Star Wars, so no ... what you saw in the cinema was never meant to be the "ending" of Star Wars.

When Lucas went to film these, he knew the first three were not as exciting as the next three ... therefore he skipped them and jumped straight into episode four where the action started - people that complain about the first three movies not being as good are obviously exposing themselves as "fake" star wars fan. A true fan knew going to the theater that these episodes were the more boring set-up parts for the original trilogy and would have never expected them to be as good (yet alone better).

The last three episodes were leased to Dark Horse Comics which were published in six comic books ... it has been stated that the Disney movies will not follow Lucas' original script. The comics were set immediately after the destruction of the Death Star while the Disney movies will be set thirty years after that event, but I suspect from the trailers that some of the same story line is still in place.

-JoeJoe



Actually the plan was for twelve. The last three being unfilmable (even in Lucas' opinion) as they were akin in style and story to the last 20 minutes of 2001.

But even Lucas got off book. The original intent was to have C-3PO and R2-D2 be the thread that held the movies together. They were the story tellers and the movie was seen through their eyes. You can see part of this in Return of the Jedi when C-3PO relates their adventures, complete with sound effects, to the rapt Ewoks.

However having Annakin be the creator of C-3PO and having built him on Tatooine means that somewhere along the line his memory is wiped as when he returns to his home world in The New hope he has no memory of the place nor of Obi-Wan.

I think Georges mind wandered a bit in the decade between the two sets of films.

Amazing how such a huge non fake fan as JoeJoe would miss such obvious points.
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Well, I am excited for the movie.

If the rest of you are not watching it, that's fine.

I really hope Kylo Ren is not Luke in disguise after turning Sith. Regardless of who wore the costume on set. Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones but played by another Actor. So was Maul.

Kylo Ren could be Luke's Sith Apprentice though...

Hmmm....
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Yes David Prowse did a wonderful job as Darth Vader.
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Yes David Prowse did a wonderful job as Darth Vader.


As did Bob Anderson who did much of the light saber duels in The Empire Strikes Back and Sebastian Shaw who played the unmasked Vader in the final scenes in Return of the Jedi.
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On Dec 11, 2015, JoeJoe wrote:

The original trilogy that Lucas wrote included nine episodes for Star Wars, so no ... what you saw in the cinema was never meant to be the "ending" of Star Wars.

When Lucas went to film these, he knew the first three were not as exciting as the next three ... therefore he skipped them and jumped straight into episode four where the action started - people that complain about the first three movies not being as good are obviously exposing themselves as "fake" star wars fan. A true fan knew going to the theater that these episodes were the more boring set-up parts for the original trilogy and would have never expected them to be as good (yet alone better).

The last three episodes were leased to Dark Horse Comics which were published in six comic books ... it has been stated that the Disney movies will not follow Lucas' original script. The comics were set immediately after the destruction of the Death Star while the Disney movies will be set thirty years after that event, but I suspect from the trailers that some of the same story line is still in place.

-JoeJoe



Actually the plan was for twelve. The last three being unfilmable (even in Lucas' opinion) as they were akin in style and story to the last 20 minutes of 2001.

But even Lucas got off book. The original intent was to have C-3PO and R2-D2 be the thread that held the movies together. They were the story tellers and the movie was seen through their eyes. You can see part of this in Return of the Jedi when C-3PO relates their adventures, complete with sound effects, to the rapt Ewoks.

However having Annakin be the creator of C-3PO and having built him on Tatooine means that somewhere along the line his memory is wiped as when he returns to his home world in The New hope he has no memory of the place nor of Obi-Wan.

I think Georges mind wandered a bit in the decade between the two sets of films.


I agree that the two robots (I hate the term 'droids) were supposed to be the running thread throughout the films. But whether they've had their memories wiped or not, we are still following them throughout the six films.

If the seventh film was supposed to have taken place immediately after the destruction of the second Death Star, then at this point it would be impossible to film it as decades of real time have gone by since that film was made. All of the actors are much older now and they could never pull off that premise without recasting the characters.

As far as Disney dropping the "expanded universe" of "Star Wars," I feel it got too big and crazy to actually be entered into canon. There's also the fact that the expanded universe itself played fast and loose with what the films portrayed as canon as far as the powers and abilities of the Jedi were and it would be well neigh impossible to incorporate that information into the film world.

As far as the storyline being complete. I agree to a degree, but in an epic setting like this, there's always room for more stories and people want to see them. To a degree, it would be like saying; "Goldfinger was the best Bond film, they shouldn't have made any more."
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May the force be with you.

I guess I will have to take my grandson to see it. You know what these kids are like. Smile
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Yes David Prowse did a wonderful job as Darth Vader.


As did Bob Anderson who did much of the light saber duels in The Empire Strikes Back and Sebastian Shaw who played the unmasked Vader in the final scenes in Return of the Jedi.


I did enjoy the dueling in Empire. I thought it was pretty seamless as far as mannerisms and such.
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Why mad?

Star Wars ended beautifully. It doesn't need another movie, let alone a spin-off.



Yes, but the beautiful thing about the new movies is that they are an OPTION for folks like you. If the original ending is how you believe the stories should end... then that's awesome... you don't need to (and probably shouldn't) see the new Disney films. So... the beautiful ending you are referring to should NOT be diminished at all! You simply ignore the new Disney films.

I'm a fan of the original ending too, and am still undecided about seeing the Disney films. If the reviews are good, I might give the new film a whirl.

So you see... there is no reason to be mad. It's simply a matter of CHOICE in deciding whether or not to see the new films.





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After seeing what Disney is doing "On the ground" in their theme parks, I'm pretty sure they will put as much money as is needed to make these new movies AWESOME! They have two movie theatre exhibits inside Hollywood Studios that hype the new movie and try to do a major set up for those who have issues with their line of thinking. Most of the folks working on these new films were just kids when the first Star Wars movie came out. For many of them this is their "dream come true". It appears they are extremely dedicated to the project.
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I'll watch them on streaming or DVD.
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PSA: The movie's premiere in Los Angeles is Monday, December 14. That means there will be spoilers flooding the internet by Wednesday and if you haven't seen it by next weekend, you really will be unable to be anywhere online without risk of spoilers. Disney went so far as to withhold marketing of some children's coloring books until January. (That last point is very true, by the way.)
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My concern is not that the movie will look cheap or be as boring as I II and III. My concern is that they are simply going to retread IV. A female in the role of plucky hero (Luke) a black ex-stormtrooper (or guy hiding out as a stormtrooper, it's not too clear) as the charming rogue (Han) and Luke himself in the Obi Wan role.
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Shame on you all for supporting this racist franchise.


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I thought we would hear an outcry when the first stormtrooper to take off his helmet on the Monday Night Football trailer, to use similar terms as Harris Perry, was a "black guy".
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Initial tweets from last night's premier indicate it's going to be good. Which, considering the buzz that JJ Abrahms is terrified because it needs to make $1.5 billion dollars, is probably fortunate.
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