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It happens time after time here on the Café and at other online forum. Points and counterpoints that devolve into arguments that only show inordinate amounts of time and energy spent upon them. Why do we do it?
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Pot kettle? Trolls gotta eat, too...
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Sometimes I think it helps to hear outrageous, illogical comments on eg 'creationism v evolution' (ring a bell?), in order to make cogent arguments about any particular subject. A good example is when Bill Nye (the science guy) debated with Ken Hamm (who believes the Earth is a few thousand years old). Out of this debate came a pretty darned good book from Mr Nye. The point is to not get rattled ... too much, that is! Lynn
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I can't believe he tricked you guys into getting into this with him.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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I think there's an art to catching a troll early on. After that, it's popcorn and soda time, or beer and chicken wings if you prefer. Smile
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I can't wait for the resident troll to comment.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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Which one?
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We feed them because, without trolls, who would guard our bridges?
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I can't wait for the resident troll to comment.

You're kidding, right?
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Is the topic was a deliberate attempt at provoking readers into an emotional response, then it looks like has succeeded as a troll. If on the other hand, the topic was an attempt at provoking readers into a rational debate, then it looks like it has failed miserably so far.
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On Dec 18, 2015, magicalaurie wrote:
Pot kettle? Trolls gotta eat, too...


Has Jonathan Townsend hijacked your account?
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On Dec 18, 2015, imgic wrote:
... Why do we do it?


Perhaps as good Samaritan, or with hope for the future or ...from the other side of the argument one could ignore everyone who's left an uncorrected typo in their post too?
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I can't wait for the resident troll to comment.

You're kidding, right?


Nope.

I like to see the limits of his obliviousness.

It's like a recurring, slow motion train wreck.
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Actually, I think the person we consider the biggest troll is, sadly, completely earnest. I hope to be proven wrong, but... And then there's a ton of devil's advocates out there as well.
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On Dec 18, 2015, NYCTwister wrote:
I can't wait for the resident troll to comment.

You're kidding, right?


Nope.

I like to see the limits of his obliviousness.

It's like a recurring, slow motion train wreck.


He has no limits.
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On Dec 18, 2015, S2000magician wrote:
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On Dec 18, 2015, NYCTwister wrote:
I can't wait for the resident troll to comment.

You're kidding, right?

Nope.

I like to see the limits of his obliviousness.

It's like a recurring, slow motion train wreck.

My question, unabridged, was, "You're kidding that you actually think he would recognize who he is, and, therefore, reply, right?"
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Pot kettle? Trolls gotta eat, too...


Has Jonathan Townsend hijacked your account?


No sir, pot kettle and I go way back. Smile And trolls gotta eat, too...
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On Dec 18, 2015, NYCTwister wrote:
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On Dec 18, 2015, S2000magician wrote:
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On Dec 18, 2015, NYCTwister wrote:
I can't wait for the resident troll to comment.

You're kidding, right?

Nope.

I like to see the limits of his obliviousness.

It's like a recurring, slow motion train wreck.

My question, unabridged, was, "You're kidding that you actually think he would recognize who he is, and, therefore, reply, right?"


Not a chance. That's why I want to see him post.

True irony is very rare.
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While other threads inspired the question that started this thread, please don't bring those discussion in here.

Why do we continuously discuss points with others when it's clear nobody's position will change, no new ideas are being exchsnged, and we'kl continue on even as the conversation degrades into an incoherent mess? Do we hope to reach somebody? Change them? Is it our stubbornness? Is it a waste of time? Or do you get some benefit from the continued exchange?
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Do we hope to reach somebody?


Yes.

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Change them?

Yes.

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Is it our stubbornness?

Yes.

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Is it a waste of time?


Maybe. Maybe not.


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Or do you get some benefit from the continued exchange?


Honest and open discussion should be beneficial to everybody. No ideas are sacred. When we start restricting the conversation and demonizing those who merely wish open discussion then we start resembling those who would do us harm. Besides, no amount of questioning or scrutiny will invalidate true ideas/beliefs, right? But it may expose them for the bad ideas they may be. Then we can discard them and move on without the baggage of false beliefs holding us back. And I would be the first to want to know if something I believe in is wrong. Because I don't want to go through life believing in things that are false.

Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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