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LobowolfXXX
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On Dec 19, 2015, imgic wrote:
While other threads inspired the question that started this thread, please don't bring those discussion in here.

Why do we continuously discuss points with others when it's clear nobody's position will change, no new ideas are being exchsnged, and we'kl continue on even as the conversation degrades into an incoherent mess? Do we hope to reach somebody? Change them? Is it our stubbornness? Is it a waste of time? Or do you get some benefit from the continued exchange?



With few historical exceptions, I reject the distinction between trolls and people who complain about them.

Other than that, I agree with most of what RS said.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Just to be clear, I am not criticizing, condemning, or seeking to restrict speech. I'm just curious why we (myself included) engage in discussions long after they've devolved into meaningless messes. Why do we (myself included) continue to engage with folks when it's evident neither side is going to change mind, or why do we (myself included) respond to posts we find incredulous or nonsensical?
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On Dec 19, 2015, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On Dec 19, 2015, imgic wrote:
While other threads inspired the question that started this thread, please don't bring those discussion in here.

Why do we continuously discuss points with others when it's clear nobody's position will change, no new ideas are being exchsnged, and we'kl continue on even as the conversation degrades into an incoherent mess? Do we hope to reach somebody? Change them? Is it our stubbornness? Is it a waste of time? Or do you get some benefit from the continued exchange?



With few historical exceptions, I reject the distinction between trolls and people who complain about them.

Other than that, I agree with most of what RS said.


Thanks Lobo. Which part(s) do you not agree with?

Ron
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On Dec 19, 2015, imgic wrote:
Just to be clear, I am not criticizing, condemning, or seeking to restrict speech. I'm just curious why we (myself included) engage in discussions long after they've devolved into meaningless messes. Why do we (myself included) continue to engage with folks when it's evident neither side is going to change mind, or why do we (myself included) respond to posts we find incredulous or nonsensical?



Because it feeds your inner troll.
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Smile I like that. Thanks. Inner Troll.

Parent/Adult/Child ... now add an inner Troll.

I'd like to have a trollmark available so we can playbow more obviously.
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Let us put things more concretely. One or two posters on this forum significantly reduce the pleasure I get from chatting with my Magic Café Friends. NVMS is sometimes a very pleasant place to hang out and to disagree over issues well beyond our control. But in all honesty, some people pollute the atmosphere.

In all likelihood for a few members I am that person.
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On a good day I can hear others when they offer better by example.
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Don't feed them Smile (If someone with a little better knowledge than me could pm me how to post a readable image of this, I would greatly appreciate it) my picture / file posting skills on this forum are not near what they are on Facebook Smile

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Some people have no life. Just last night, this guy was in the booth next to mine at Denny's for five hours.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Why do we continue to Feed The Troll?

There are many reasons...

Anger at the outrageous statement or stance
Antipathy to their views
Carpe Dieming the Perfect Snark
Carpe Dieming telling someone they're stupid when they actually, relentlessly deliberately are
Correcting their untruths/mistakes/lies
Snatching at the dangling carrot, too dense to see the string OR the dangling OR our own manipulated dancing
Blindness to and/or permission for intense deliberate Passive-Aggressive behavior
Hopeful assumption of innocence in the Trolling
Assumption of sincerity instead of deliberate Trolling
Natural and automatic response to masochistic machinations
The chance to display wit
The joy of Dialogue's Badminton game
To better show ourselves that which we do not wish to be
the honest effort to tell them the errors of their ways, mores, beliefs or actions

and because no one should be Troll-Stupid without correction from SOMEBODY in the world!
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Some people have no life. Just last night, this guy was in the booth next to mine at Denny's for five hours.


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Trolls feed trolls
nuff said
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On Jan 1, 2016, Tree wrote:
Trolls feed trolls


Cannibalism?
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I am on a quest to rid humanity of stupidity and this seemed like a good place to start.
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LOL, Hermit! In my lifetime I have not seen stupidity decreasing. Only increasing.
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I won't say he is a troll but I have found my Café experience up-lifted by simply avoiding any thread to which a certain member posts. I know he pushes my buttons and I know I'm going to react badly if I get involved so I've decided to step back. It hasn't kept me out of too many threads that I would have enjoyed and I'm happier for it.

We probably all have a couple of folks we should just avoid. It doesn't mean they are bad or wrong, just not a good mix with us.

I've decided not to feed my inner righteous indignation (which is pretty ravenous once it gets started).

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Mary:

I just started doing that myself for the new year. Made resolution I was going to avoid any threads started by those that push my buttons, and not to reply to any of their postings in any other threads. Already caught myself a few times replying...then, before hitting send, I stopped. I realized I wasn't going to change their mind, and wasn't providing anything useful to any going conversation. It was just something that irked me, and I wanted to reply. So I stopped, deleted, and went to other discussion.

Now if I could just be as good with my resolution on weight loss and exercise...
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On Jan 4, 2016, imgic wrote:
Mary:

I just started doing that myself for the new year. Made resolution I was going to avoid any threads started by those that push my buttons, and not to reply to any of their postings in any other threads. Already caught myself a few times replying...then, before hitting send, I stopped. I realized I wasn't going to change their mind, and wasn't providing anything useful to any going conversation. It was just something that irked me, and I wanted to reply. So I stopped, deleted, and went to other discussion.

Now if I could just be as good with my resolution on weight loss and exercise...

If everyone followed your good example the troll(s) would be left ranting into the darkness all alone.
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