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heldergdias New user 21 Posts 
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Hello Guys.
At this moment, iam researching for Card trimming devices which are able to create gimmicked decks (such as stripper decks, n-strippers and others). I would like to know alternatives which are avaliable to purchase at this moment (besides Joe Porper, its too expensive for me =)). Also corner rounder jigs will also help. Thanks helder |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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Sorry to report they are all in the $500 and higher range.
If you don't mind free, go to http://www.jamesriser.com/Magic/JamesRiserMagic.html scroll down the page and download the PDF file, "Making an Inexpensive Card Trimmer", then make it, and it works. You can check out gambling cheat devices, but they are as I said, all very expensive. |
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heldergdias New user 21 Posts
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Hi bill, thanks for your help.
I can pay more or less the range of prices that this site has http://www.theperfectshuffle.com/ (around 500 USD). Just need to check if there are other options on the market. Iam contacting Auke van Dokkum about his stripping plate. Anybody has information about the jig and himself? Thanks Hélder |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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Auke Van Dokkum is/was the premier metal craftsman and magic prop maker in the Netherlands. His reputation is unquestioned. As far as he making anything now, I got the impression that he retired. His website is down, and only a few small items were sold though Stevens Magic. His website now directs you to his Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/auke.vandokkum
I never seen a stripping plate on his website, mostly Linking Rings, Cups for Cups and Ball, special coin tricks, etc. If he had a different website, I never knew about it. There are small one unit card trimmers, dating back to as old is gambling, I remember them being shown here on the Café and other magic websites. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly. All trimmers I have seen, you have to do one card at a time. Take a look at these: http://www.jamesriser.com/Magic/Card/Trimmer.html What I referenced previously: http://jamesriser.com/Magic/CardTrimmers......ser.html Good luck in your search. |
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Peckham Loyal user 225 Posts
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SEO Magic has a corner trimmer with a DVD and not too expensive, I bought it a month ago ~$30. Gets the job done.
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Ihop Inner circle Glen Spey, NY 1604 Posts
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There are many arts and craft stores around.
I bought my corner rounder at Michaels for under $10. You can also try AC Moore, Hobby Lobby, etc.
Ihor
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Ihop Inner circle Glen Spey, NY 1604 Posts
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Here's the link for the corner Rounder at Michael's Arts & Crafts store.
$7.99 http://www.michaels.com/search?q=corner%20rounder Make sure you get the right size. I forgot which size I have since I bought it years ago but it's the right size for Bicycle poker size cards.
Ihor
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts
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I must "go" with Bill Hegbli on this one.
The only trimmers (to make strippers, etc., that I've actually seen (and held in my hands) were Jay Marshall's. Jay had worked for Stuart Robson (dealer in NYC in the '40s. Jay worked in the back room, trimming strippers, etc. I've pitched "SEVEN GALIS" (Eddie Fields term) on fair grounds, but, I've never made my own. The late ROY KISSELL had a great story in the LINKING RING, back in the '70s. He described his dad pitching Svengalis on fair grounds, and, how dad got his decks for nothing, or almost nothing! (and, got the instructions printed free, also!)
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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There was a time when I wanted to make those "SEVEN GALIS" (Ha!). I found something that probably doesn't exist these days... a mom & pop print shop. Because I regularly gave them my business, I knew them well enough to ask for use of their very large guillotine paper cutter. Once I set the size jig, it cut through an entire deck like a hot knife through butter. Just the weight of the blade was enough to send all those very narrow pieces flying like crazy. Very dangerous device in the wrong hands, but boy did it even make beautiful cuts. The trim was fine enough that corner rounding was not even necessary.
These days, I have made stripped cards using a regular office guillotine cutter that I have here at home. I made a stop jig set to at the proper angle and anchored it to the bed at the proper width. I only cut one card at a time, but if you only need to make a few cards (or even just a few decks) it works well enough. I would love to see the die(s) used to cut belly strippers.
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heldergdias New user 21 Posts
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On Jan 6, 2016, Bill Hegbli wrote: The Jig from Auke is Based on Sanding, but iam not quite sure if its effective or not. I have seen the Jig from Eoin and I liked it very much. To others, please keep the messages rolling. Thanks |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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There is nothing more to tell, you have to search for what you desire. Check used magic websites, auctions, and when you get 50 posts you can place a request in the Let's Make a Deal section of the Café. Also check out cheating at gambling websites. $500 was what they cost about 8 to 10 years ago, I am use do to inflation, they will be much higher today, and every month you wait, the price will be going up.
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heldergdias New user 21 Posts
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Hi Bill.
Still searching. Thanks for your help. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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Did you post what you are looking for in the Gaffed and Funky topic. That is where guys who use gimmicked playing cards hang out.
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hugmagic Inner circle 7665 Posts
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Card Trimmer, good ones with micro adjustments which are needed, are not cheap. They can run $2000 +. Some are guillotine style while others are large scissors. Jim Riser's plans are the best alternative out there.
Craft stores have the corner rounders but that is not the same a making a stripper or Svengali deck. Dick, I just saw the trimmer of Jay's again Tuesday in the collection where it now resides. It was a Will and Fink trimmer with micro adjustments. It was big bucks when it sold. Will and Fink is among the most desirable and expensive gambling items to collectors. They made some great straight and crooked stuff. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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Ihop Inner circle Glen Spey, NY 1604 Posts
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On Jan 8, 2016, hugmagic wrote: Richard, You are absolutely correct that corner rounders are not the same as making a stripper or Svengali deck. But after you short a card using a trimmer, you do have to round the corner. You really need both, a trimmer and a corner rounder.
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heldergdias New user 21 Posts
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Hi guys.
I do have plans to purchase Stripper Jig by Eoin O'Hare . Somebody has any experience in how easy is to round the corners after stripping? Thanks Hélder |
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darksage New user 72 Posts
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Eion is a fine gentleman to deal with and offers a fine product that is easy to use and very precise. The corners are easy to round with a corner cutter and perhaps a little sanding with a nail file.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts
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Thanks Richard! for the info, on Jay's trimmer~!
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Uncle Teddy New user 5 Posts
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On Jan 6, 2016, Bill Hegbli wrote: I just wanted to say that I'm really enjoying this topic, these links in particular with the photos of the trimming machines are fascinating. Thanks for posting them Bill 
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heldergdias New user 21 Posts
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Hi guys.
Somebody know if its still possible to get hold on a Line-Lo Machine? It does seem that they are not being produced anymore. Thanks a bunch
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