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MysticJohn
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Im still not over Houdini
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On Sep 9, 2016, Sensio wrote:
Just happened to have a thought about the fact that he (in my experience at least) has NEVER made any mistake either planned or by accident.
Isn't this weird?


Actually he has. Smile
In episode 2 of "Trick or treat" he travels to NY and tries to pay some stuff with "blank paper"...
However, it only works 2 out of 3 times. Here is the one that failed: https://youtu.be/3Vz_YTNLn6w?t=83
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And the "How To Cheat A Casino" - he apparently lost that random guy's money in the casino.

And the beginning of Enigma, when he said he couldn't guess the band someone had thought of.

And there's been a few various episodes on his TV Shows where they show the couple times whatever it was didn't work. I remember one with him setting a watch to a specific time and trying to have the volunteer guess it, and one lady gave a guess that was way off.

Oh and if you count it, when he had the guy in Venice hide something and he found it via CMR, he did find it but it took him a lot longer than he intended it to.

So yeah, he's done it several times.
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Let's be a little more respectful of Mr. Brown. How would you feel if yo had criticized Anneman shortly before
he left us? He is a true maven and in mentalism, "mistakes" as you know, can actually be used to make it
more authentic
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Yeah I remember the cheating casino episode vividly, that really sold many on his claims.
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On Sep 12, 2016, countrymaven wrote:
Let's be a little more respectful of Mr. Brown. How would you feel if yo had criticized Anneman shortly before
he left us? He is a true maven and in mentalism, "mistakes" as you know, can actually be used to make it
more authentic

I couldn't agree with you more! Although I have only just dicovered Mr. Brown about two weeks ago, I have been watching almost anything he has relased already. Smile
Also I am reading his book "Pure effect" at the moment!
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He's on telly. I (and nearly all of you reading this) are not.

He's not lost his way so much as we haven't found ours.
Over.
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That has nothing at all to do with the topic of this thread. This thread is about Derren as it pertains to the Penny Forum and The Magic Café.
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On Sep 12, 2016, WitchDocChris wrote:
And the "How To Cheat A Casino" - he apparently lost that random guy's money in the casino.

And the beginning of Enigma, when he said he couldn't guess the band someone had thought of.

And there's been a few various episodes on his TV Shows where they show the couple times whatever it was didn't work. I remember one with him setting a watch to a specific time and trying to have the volunteer guess it, and one lady gave a guess that was way off.

Oh and if you count it, when he had the guy in Venice hide something and he found it via CMR, he did find it but it took him a lot longer than he intended it to.

So yeah, he's done it several times.


Yes now I can remember some of these instances.
At the end I believe that the overall style that people were left with was a mind reader and mind manipulator that will be "mistakeless". Those mistakes account to very little percentage of the myriads of presentations he performed.
I also suspect that several mistakes must have happened during his shows although there is no mentioning by anyone ever that he went wrong and eventually couldn't recover. Maybe he invested heavily in disaster management.
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It relates.
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One thought I had which may colour the opinion of people in the Café about Derren - in most of his TV work there is rarely a credit to other people as consultants on the programs, with a very few notable exceptions. I find it hard to believe that at no point has Objective Productions had a table of mentalists/magicians/performers and a brainstorming session or two.

Are we to believe this never happens and Derren creates everything we see, or do people just go uncredited?
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One thought I had which may colour the opinion of people in the Café about Derren - in most of his TV work there is rarely a credit to other people as consultants on the programs, with a very few notable exceptions. I find it hard to believe that at no point has Objective Productions had a table of mentalists/magicians/performers and a brainstorming session or two.

Are we to believe this never happens and Derren creates everything we see, or do people just go uncredited?


Im pretty sure he does indeed credit Andy Nyman Andrew O' Connor Ian Sharkey at least!
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Those would be the notable exceptions (also Luke Jermay). Surely others have been involved and not credited?

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On Sep 14, 2016, solarpk wrote:
One thought I had which may colour the opinion of people in the Café about Derren - in most of his TV work there is rarely a credit to other people as consultants on the programs, with a very few notable exceptions. I find it hard to believe that at no point has Objective Productions had a table of mentalists/magicians/performers and a brainstorming session or two.

Are we to believe this never happens and Derren creates everything we see, or do people just go uncredited?


Im pretty sure he does indeed credit Andy Nyman Andrew O' Connor Ian Sharkey at least!
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I wouldn't have thought so...involve more and more people and you lose sight of derren's persona...different from magic as its more plug and play...
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Do other artist credit the inventors of the tricks they use in tv-shows a lot? I mean is it like saying in the show: and the trick I now perform is from xy?
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Here is the link in case someone didn't watch it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF0GDe-aUJk

Does anybody know the music that starts from 1:04: 00 ? MIRACLE-ous Smile !
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Thank you for this link.
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In between all his stages shows, spectacular paintings and T.V specials he's also written a new book, 'HAPPY' and it is rather good. The man is a genius legend and I can't put my tongue far enough up his ass! ... yeah, I kinda like him.
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I actually really enjoy his stuff. Some of the TV stuff drifts a bit further out there than is my cup of tea, but if I only saw mentalists perform exactly my cup of tea, I'd soon be sick of my own tea. I think he has a very creative approach, and is especially good at making theater out of the mind-reading process of mentalism.
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It's amazing how this thread has wandered so far off of the original topic.
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