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On Feb 5, 2016, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
Joke: Nagician shows peer a card trick, then offers to show his classic pass. The guy replies no thanks I've been married for years. It's a bot joke. Tricksters winced already.

Aha, you can tell I'm not really on that server cluster! Annother bot joke.

Or is it really like insect politics?

Yes! It is exactly like Insect politics. An astute observation.
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Do you have sources to support the Rand/Dagney and John (Galt) position?

Uh...no, because I've written nothing in this thread, or in my 10+ years here for that matter, to even leave a whisper of a hint that I ever supported Ayn Rand's philosophy. In fact, IIRC, in my first few encounters with you here, I opposed your championing of Rand.

I really can't explain myself any better. I'm exhausted. I'm out of this thread.
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On Feb 5, 2016, magicfish wrote:
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On Feb 5, 2016, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
Joke: Nagician shows peer a card trick, then offers to show his classic pass. The guy replies no thanks I've been married for years. It's a bot joke. Tricksters winced already.

Aha, you can tell I'm not really on that server cluster! Annother bot joke.

Or is it really like insect politics?

Yes! It is exactly like Insect politics. An astute observation.


I thought he meant insect politicians.

Like locusts.
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On Feb 5, 2016, NYCTwister wrote:
...insect politicians...


Yes, as in The Fly.

The "no brainers" don't need politics. They don't need politicians seeking to elicit consent. There's no extraneous sense of self needing persuasion. Bruce Sterling and others including Frank Herbert have written about people visiting such cultures.

But must we have such a culture? As of Hobbes' book Leviathan it seems to be a forgone conclusion. There's some discussion that pertains to the war on ignorance in section IV.

Landmark says we are fine without any sense of self, let it go, essentialy a call to Complete The Circle. No more John Galts going on strike rather than support the greater good. No more Dagney's giving their all to keep the business running. I can respect that position. I was just looking to see if others wished to argue for other.

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I stopped talking about Rand long ago.

It just gets people angry.
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If I was one of these creatures it is possible I might very well prefer to be left alone.





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...insect politicians...


Yes, as in The Fly.

The "no brainers" don't need politics. They don't need politicians seeking to elicit consent. There's no extraneous sense of self needing persuasion. Bruce Sterling and others including Frank Herbert have written about people visiting such cultures.

But must we have such a culture? As of Hobbes' book Leviathan it seems to be a forgone conclusion. There's some discussion that pertains to the war on ignorance in section IV.

Landmark says we are fine without any sense of self, let it go, essentialy a call to Complete The Circle. No more John Galts going on strike rather than support the greater good. No more Dagney's giving their all to keep the business running. I can respect that position. I was just looking to see if others wished to argue for other.

May the force be with US.

How can we? Didn't Captain Bly sail away with the Breadfruit? Cook's savage remains anonymous.
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It helps to state your thesis before offering compact argument. In this case - we/US already pretty much engaged in the process. Leviathan, Beatrice, Yum, Papa Song - already happening. Okay that last one was from a fiction.

I thought the name of the ship was Bounty. Was that a quick enough pickerupper?
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