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Can the image be scratched on a borrowed paper surface ? Like a bill or paper or something ? I don't see it being very convincing if it's scratched on my paper ...
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Even if the impression of the coin is made beforehand so that there is no coin in play when the rubbing is done, it's still a non effect. Any 5 year old will have a method to throw at you.

I actually added this to my cart on the Sans Minds site because I was convinced it was a joke and therefore a fake product. It's not, it's real lol.

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Another piece of Junk from Sans Mindso

I guess the dealers who are stuck with it will be able to get shot of this crap at Blackpool in a few weeks time !
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While many here have jumped on bashing the trick, I actually quite like it. Think about the effect here. Your spectator think of a coin and imagine the coin sitting on a pad. No one knows what the coin is. The magician is able to 'trace' the energy and show people what they are thinking of as a process of 'reading'. It is a very strong moment. Visual is very unusual in mentalism. It's a very interesting approach. I'd want to explore this direction myself.
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Nonono , to magicians this might seem to be a killing trick . To us , a merely thought of coin gets imprinted on a paper looks very amazing , but hey ,,, to the spectator they don't care whether it's a thought of coin or a forced coin , they only care about the fact that some other coin is definitely hidden underneath the paper when the coin is scratched , that will basically throw the entire effect away ~

I would love to see a live performance and the spectator's reaction , I'm more interested on how people actually presents this piece to get a decent reaction .
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On Feb 1, 2016, Magician560 wrote:
Nonono , to magicians this might seem to be a killing trick . To us , a merely thought of coin gets imprinted on a paper looks very amazing , but hey ,,, to the spectator they don't care whether it's a thought of coin or a forced coin , they only care about the fact that some other coin is definitely hidden underneath the paper when the coin is scratched , that will basically throw the entire effect away ~

I would love to see a live performance and the spectator's reaction , I'm more interested on how people actually presents this piece to get a decent reaction .


Agree. Most magicians do not seem to understand this simple point.

Even if a spectator just THINKS that they know how 10% of the trick is done, they do not care about the rest, they will feel that they have figured it out.
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I agree. My point was if the live audiences knows that 10% you mentioned, they wouldn't have reacted at all. So the method must be clean and impossible to the audience for them to get that reaponse. Just my 2C. Already got my order in. Will keep everyone posted with a straight up review.
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I agree. My point was if the live audiences knows that 10% you mentioned, they wouldn't have reacted at all. So the method must be clean and impossible to the audience for them to get that reaponse. Just my 2C. Already got my order in. Will keep everyone posted with a straight up review.



I showed this to my daughter, she is five and had a theory about it, which I'm sure was not that far off.

Buying things based on the reactions in the trailer is something that I would not advice someone to do.

For me, this trick is one of the worst I have seen in a long time.

It is more of a puzzle in my opinion.
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I will have this soon so can do you a proper review.
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Yes yes ! I look forward to your opinion on Trace .
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Erm; this is a joke isn't it?
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Does it really matter if the method is frigging AMAZING or not?

The end result is still the same, the effect is still the same. The effect is, in my opinion, a joke.
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"This is mentalism in its purest form."

So many things wrong with that statement from the ad copy
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Ppl need to remember that a simple dl can get those sort of reactions in the trailer...doubt just buy an effect based on trailer reactions
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On Feb 1, 2016, Karl M wrote:
I will have this soon so can do you a proper review.


You should have this by now, no?

I would really like to see what you have to say about this. I am particularly interested in your opinion regarding the mentalism method. The appearance of the coin, even in different denominations is a no brainer for method. However, the mentalism method for determining what coin they are thinking of is what I'm curious about.

My guess is that is really isn't any method, but rather just asking what coin they are thinking of and revealing that coin. If so, then the ad copy would be very misleading, implying that the performer would not have any way of knowing what coin they were thinking of.

Looking forward to your review, and thanks in advance.

KJ
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Still waiting for it to arrive mate
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I doubt the method for knowing the coin would be ground breaking or even clever , they're selling a pencil sketching effect ~
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I doubt the method for knowing the coin would be ground breaking or even clever , they're selling a pencil sketching effect ~


I'm afraid you might be right. I look forward to Karl M's review.

KJ
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Still waiting for it to arrive mate, been waiting ages annoying
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Got it yesterday, its complete rubbish, I can't see how he got the reactions too it in the trailer.
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