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On Mar 4, 2016, DavidKenney wrote:
"Nice review. What are your thoughts on the deleted photos issue?"

I'm not an iphone user, so I had no idea about this cloud thing.... you guys have clouds? See this is why I hate MACS Smile


It's not just "this cloud thing". There is also a folder right on the iPhone (named Recently Deleted) that most iPhone users know about.

These can also usually be recovered on Android phones, but as of now, it's nowhere near as simple as it is on iPhones.

If he doesn't go over how to remove the photo from the Recently Deleted folder, that's very bad.
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On Mar 4, 2016, DavidKenney wrote:
"Nice review. What are your thoughts on the deleted photos issue?"

I'm not an iphone user, so I had no idea about this cloud thing.... you guys have clouds? See this is why I hate MACS Smile


It's not just "this cloud thing". There is also a folder right on the iPhone (named Recently Deleted) that most iPhone users know about.

These can also usually be recovered on Android phones, but as of now, it's nowhere near as simple as it is on iPhones.

If he doesn't go over how to remove the photo from the Recently Deleted folder, that's very bad.


His advice for deleted photos is "most people are not aware of their deleted folder", that is it. And that is a real problem for me. Not only that but I just do not see how to get around two different photos. When you snap a pic of someone unawares, their eyes might be closed, they may be looking down or up, they may have their hands in their pocket or on their hips. However, when you say "Hey, lets take a photo together", they are going to smile. They may stick out their tongue. Put up the peace sign, hang ten, chunk deuces etc. It is an occasion to act silly. Nowadays, people are real anal about their photos. How in the world do you pass one off for the other? You also have to sell being totally ignorant, which for some, may be true due to the large amount of different phones out there. I purchased it, watched it, thought the whole premise displayed clever thinking, but it takes too much for granted. It is certainly not an effect you can do anytime, anywhere to anybody.


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That is Rubish Most People Know all about the Deleted Folder

I have even seen Girls who have deleted the wrong Photo and gone back to restore it
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the context but it sounds like you're implying girls are somehow less tech savvy than guys which is both inaccurate and sexist.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the context but it sounds like you're implying girls are somehow less tech savvy than guys which is both inaccurate and sexist.


That is not what I said in fact Girls spend more time on Phones that Guys and Take more Selfies so they are more up on things like the Deleted Folder


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ne......men.html
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I was so disappointed with this dvd. Other Morgan releases that I have are top notch, but this one is a miss. Nice idea, but very impractical to do. I cant believe that WPR gave it such high marks and I think now that maybe their reviews are not always their reviews.
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I was so disappointed with this dvd. Other Morgan releases that I have are top notch, but this one is a miss. Nice idea, but very impractical to do. I cant believe that WPR gave it such high marks and I think now that maybe their reviews are not always their reviews.


Spend some time into it and maybe it will work ?

Or is it completely unworkable for you ?
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According to the promo video, it seems like an iphone must be used. but I'm wondering can this be only done using an iPhone or iOS device? what if I'm a android user
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You use their phone so it helps if you're familiar with both Android and iOS.
Basically according to the tutorial you borrow their phone and play dumb for a minute. Pretty much act like you've never seen a smartphone before.
While playing dumb you secretly do the dirty work.
So if you're known as a techno geek to your family and friends it would be difficult to pull this off for them, so that eliminates family and friends, which now limits it primarily to working pros in that case.
I just didn't care for all the playing dumb. Not that I couldn't pull it off but it creates a bit of dead time while you fumble around like an idiot and there are a few things you have to make sure are set correctly. If it goes great the effect can look good, and there are things you can do to maximize your chances, although the explanation doesn't really cover this very well. But a certain amount of the time you will end up with some photos that don't look the same at all.

Then you need to take the phone again and play dumb some more while you get rid of any evidence that would allow them to backtrack and discover what really happened.

All in all, just too much of a hassle for me although others may love it.
There are just too many other sure fire and hard-hitting effects for me to want to mess about with this. IMO, the majority of times it just won't look all that good for all the trouble entailed.
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I see, but in the modern era, I doubt you can go around playing dumb of not knowing how using an smartphone. that may be a difficult part to engage the audience as its obvious that in hi tech society that's it's hard to play dumb. Discussing this with my Friend, I found out this effect isn't as workable as seen the in promo video. thanks for clearing some of my doubts @ videoman
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You could justify acting dumb by doing a fake IQ test and bring the result slip ( lower than 100 ) around with you while while you perform . At least that way you can prove that you are really D.U.M.B. Smile
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Lol that's could work hahahah... wondering if need to go to such an extent to just play dumb lol
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Hi guys, Answer please, are this trick work in Russsian language, on russian audience? thx
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Would it be churlish of me to point out that the pictures of the young Asian girl (before and after) are two totally different pics.


Yes, yes it would.



This appears to be a photo that the magician took of the spectator, I imagine while holding the phone and asking for someone to take a photo of himself and the spectator, with the spectator posed and waiting for the magician to join him/her, and the following photo of the magician with spectator was obviously deleted.

If he borrowed my phone and did this, the evidence would be in the Google photos backup as well as the Dropbox and Box backups of my photos. I wonder if he thinks he could borrow my Galaxy S 7 and perform this without leaving a trace in the cloud of the method?

If I'm mistaken that my multiple instant cloud backups of my photos or a similar setup in iCloud doesn't destroy this trick then I'll buy it.
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On Feb 15, 2016, barts185 wrote:
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On Feb 14, 2016, Ray Chelt wrote:
Would it be churlish of me to point out that the pictures of the young Asian girl (before and after) are two totally different pics.


Yes, yes it would.



This appears to be a photo that the magician took of the spectator, I imagine while holding the phone and asking for someone to take a photo of himself and the spectator, with the spectator posed and waiting for the magician to join him/her, and the following photo of the magician with spectator was obviously deleted.

If he borrowed my phone and did this, the evidence would be in the Google photos backup as well as the Dropbox and Box backups of my photos. I wonder if he thinks he could borrow my Galaxy S 7 and perform this without leaving a trace in the cloud of the method?

If I'm mistaken that my multiple instant cloud backups of my photos or a similar setup in iCloud doesn't destroy this trick then I'll buy it.


I never bought this but from other comments you're not mistaken. Apparently his whole covering of photos that are copied to the cloud, or photos that can be retrieved once deleted is, "Most people don't know about that."
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I never bought this but from other comments you're not mistaken. Apparently his whole covering of photos that are copied to the cloud, or photos that can be retrieved once deleted is, "Most people don't know about that."


As someone who uses google drive and most people I know use it as well, that line never felt on the up and up.
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If he borrowed my phone and did this, the evidence would be in the Google photos backup as well as the Dropbox and Box backups of my photos. I wonder if he thinks he could borrow my Galaxy S 7 and perform this without leaving a trace in the cloud of the method?

If I'm mistaken that my multiple instant cloud backups of my photos or a similar setup in iCloud doesn't destroy this trick then I'll buy it.



This can be performed without leaving anything on any cloud. It can also be performed without playing dumb. However, this is not the kind of effect you put into a formal show. In the right hands this can be amazing.
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