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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yes FBI never leaks.
And no Apple does not have the ability to do it they had to write a way to do it.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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Are people so passionate about the cell phone issue because they see it as one of very few remaining area of possible true privacy? If you truly want to understand why people are so passionate, I recommend again to you the Chomsky-Snowden-Greenwald discussion I mentioned before. They are far more articulate than I am. You may not agree with what they say, but they will give you more insight into the motivations of those who think this is important. Here's the link again: https://theintercept.com/a-conversation-about-privacy/ But I think you've answered your own question here: Quote:
'm just wondering where those passionate about privacy draw the line. The FBI can lawfully search any house, business or container with a warrant. They can listen to phone calls, track all of your financial information, put a tracker on your car (again, with a warrant), access your DNA records if you've ever been arrested, draw blood from your body or remove a bullet from your shoulder with a warrant, search your home computer and recover your deleted files, etc. Given what you understand about the situation, isn't the real question to be asked, not "where those passionate about privacy draw the line," but "where those passionate about surveillance draw the line." Because it is the surveillers who keep moving the line further and further. It's not like we're getting more and more privacy as time goes on.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
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On Mar 30, 2016, Salguod Nairb wrote: I'm not saying to give the govt the ability, but for Apple to comply by providing the content of the phone.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Forced compliance.
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0pus Inner circle New Jersey 1739 Posts |
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On Mar 30, 2016, Dannydoyle wrote: That looks like involuntary servitude! |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Mar 30, 2016, 0pus wrote: Yea not like liberty.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
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On Mar 30, 2016, Dannydoyle wrote: There's forced compliance for all search warrants
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
For those who are suspected yes. NOT for random companies. See the difference?
Danny Doyle
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
Apple wasn't a random company. Just like a company getting served a search warrant for one of their customers, no difference.
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Wasn't this answered on page 1 of this thread?
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea.
Danny Doyle
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Okay, just checking.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
He believes what he wants regardless of facts.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
At least in your minds. The FBI was taking Apple to court to have the search warrant executed. People and their fetish's with their phones....hilarious!!
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0pus Inner circle New Jersey 1739 Posts |
I believe that Apple was served with a subpoena, not a search warrant. I don't think a subpoena of a non-party can (or should) force a person or company to work for the law enforcers. Also, I don't think that a subpoena can or should force a business to sabotage itself.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
Thanks Opus for the correct verbiage.
Interesting update https://www.yahoo.com/politics/congress-......055.html
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
That is the verbiage we have been using.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
There's a subpoena due to a search warrant.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
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On Mar 30, 2016, 0pus wrote: Under absolutely no circumstances whatsoever?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Subpoena (n.) Look up subpoena at Dictionary.com
early 15c., sub pena, from Medieval Latin sub poena "under penalty," the first words of the writ commanding the presence of someone under penalty of failure, from Latin sub "under" (see sub-) + poena, ablative of poena "penalty" (see penal). The verb is attested from 1630s.
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