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I think Min made a mistake, and he gets it.

I don't see him ducking the topic in any way either.
He messed up, and handled it.
I also get the impression (...don't say it...) he won't make it again.

Everyone had solid opinions on this.

I declare PL in the right lol, but think that Min sounds like a decent/stand up guy.
I love my PL stuff, but if I had some expendable income, I'd try his version happily.

All the best folks Smile
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I'm not referring to this incident specifically but it just amazes me how often this sort of thing has happened, especially lately it seems.
The creators of a new release "kinda, sorta" check with the original creator, at least enough to feel like they can claim they did.
But then it comes out that they never actually discussed the details (or sometimes anything.)

IMO there seems to be an epidemic of preferring to ask forgiveness after the fact rather than asking permission beforehand.
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I hear ya Videoman.
The old "better to beg forgivness than ask permission" mentality.
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I already have the ParaPad and looking at the website with the lack of information I am not inclined to hit the Pay button
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I have parapads and paranormal wallet.
The wallet is my go to device and is used as my "regular" wallet as well.
even writing is perfectly clear most times.
So, imo, the price is hard to argue.
Plus, you can't beat the PL guys for customer service, etc.
And, they really are good guys, that sell a great, established product.
They have a reputation to protect as well.
I know they're established, and wont turn out to be some fly by night operation.
This kind of stuff is important to me personally.
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Since someone used plastic slate... many applications were released.
since someone used graphite slate... many applications were released.
since someone used white/grey magnetic sheet... many applications were released.
since someone used gold magnetic sheet... you can't.

IN THIS CASE * It's not just the magnetic sheet!!!
This guy went for all the trouble to manufacture magnets to release a better pen which gives a better resolution impression and you guys are focusing on the magnet sheet?
He didn't Rip Off and didn't Copy anything - GO AFTER who DOES IT, there's plenty around here!

CRAZY * WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING Smile

FYI I don't know the guy and payed everything * I'm a Paralabs client aswell.
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Lseeyou, I honestly don't want to ruffle feathers, but...
There's been great discussion all about this topic, all sides of it.
You seem to think there is one collective opinion here,
some agreed upon concensious or something.
People have expressed opinions and views from many perspectives.
Guess I'm trying to say it's not clearly black and white always.
Some think it's development, improvement, and progress.
Others think it's a ripoff, etc.
Ultimately, in this instance, I really think it was a (honest enough)
mistake by someone new to releasing material.
The PL guys seem to be very good at communicating with other creators.
They seem to treat others as they like to be treated, and it shows.
Not everyone keeps courtousy, honesty, and resspect on the front burner.
Sadly.

Anyway, another barly awake, soon to be regretted post..is now set free into the wild.


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"Magma includes a clever and thin PVC Organic Wallet"

I just want to know how the heck something made from PVC can be organic (which must be the most overused descriptive in magic)
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And btw, he slimmed up the *pen part...resulting in a huge reduction in penetration.
So, no. It's honestly not the same imo as your list of examples.
Honestly though, it fills a void for finer print, and with the lower price point.
But...you get exactly the same result (if you want to fine tune) as with any PL item.
My opinion based on my experience.
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On Jun 22, 2016, Joe Atmore wrote:
"Magma includes a clever and thin PVC Organic Wallet"

I just want to know how the heck something made from PVC can be organic (which must be the most overused descriptive in magic)


Yup Smile
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@JoeAtmore - not the best description as you mention... its a slim wallet for business cards/credit cards... imo it doesn't look cheap // nothing like the black cheap plastic wallets that some packet tricks come with.

@252life - yes reduction in penetration BUT way better resolution * with this slim wallet you don't need more power.

Peace Out Smile
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Lseeyou...thanks for forcing me to spend more $$ lol.
Guess I'm curious enough to put this to rest personally, and see for myself.
Maybe.
It was good to hear that the pvc case isn't as cheap as some I've seen.

I'm all over the place with this one.

Anyone know a good life coach?
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@252life I didn't regret buying and I bought a lot of impression stuff (sold almost all) and this I wont sell for sure!
I've been using it almost daily because it's that Good and lot of Fun * for me at last - Love the Roschach cards and the delay peek.

Life coach... interesting you mention it.
I found One and for my surprise... God!
My relationship with Him has no costs only profit! Getting better each day, real results inside out Smile

Have a great week and let me know when you get Magma, curious to know what you think.
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MinSting, I would be very interested in a PM with pics of the wallet and imp quality...
252life
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Will do Lsee.
Always fun talking about this stuff either way though, huh?

You convinced me.
Or my curiosity did.
Gonna order it now, and I look forward to a real review.
I'm trusting your opinion mostly Lsee,
you obviously have been around the Imp block as well lol.


Hope the days treating everyone well.
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On Jun 22, 2016, JasonL2112 wrote:
MinSting, I would be very interested in a PM with pics of the wallet and imp quality...



I think that would be helpful to many Smile

I'm taking the plunge though either way at this point.
I have zero self control.
Nada.
Zilch.
None.


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Amazing.
Its out of stock at Penguin.

And not one review for it there....ugh!
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I don't think Penguin has this...? Only the other Magma effect (glowing hand).

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On Jun 22, 2016, 252life wrote:
Amazing.
Its out of stock at Penguin.

And not one review for it there....ugh!
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@252life thanks for trusting me! go here not penguin > www.mentalbrush.com
Yes like you say its always fun to talk about this things and yes I've been around the Imp Block for a long time Smile

If you don't like it, I don't think you will but we never know... I will take it from you ok? Smile

Waiting for you feedback.

Best!

btw I'm feeling like a salesman for this product lol where's my profit MinSting * Just kidding
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Lmao I like you Lsee.
No need to buy it back if worse case I don't appreciate it.
But, seriously, thanks a ton for the offer.
I just found, and ordered it, from Mystique Factory.
(First time. Never heard of them before)

What really has me interested is seeing the clarity with smaller writing.
Again, I currently use the PL Paranormal and pads.
Most times no problem with clarity in the least.
But, with writing, and detail, clearer is always nice.

Lsee, I know how it feels when you get behind a product,
to the point of looking like a stooge lol.
But don't sweat it, you don't Smile
I do the same thing with any of Atlas Brookings stuff.
I could be his PR guy at this point lol, so I feel your pain.
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