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brandon90 Special user Iowa 711 Posts |
I agree with Slackerking...
The question of "How easy is this" has also been popping up an awful lot lately. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
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On Mar 2, 2016, Slackerking wrote: I agree with you 100% If I find something worth performing, I wil practice for hours upon hours daily to perfect it before ever putting it in my show. But each day between day 1 and my performance, I would perform it for a family member or good honest friend. To be sure I'm on the right track and not wasting my time. I performed this piece for a family member and my girlfriend/assistant (who is always brutally honest.) They were both immediately able to see the secret. In some cases, a method isn't strong enough to support itself regardless of practice. So while I wholeheartedly support Nicholas Lawrence and think he is SUPER creative, this one just misses on so many levels. So much so, that I have no desire to practice it any further. When you're in the magic business literally your whole life, you can start to easily recognize what is practical and what isn't from the moment you see it. |
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2063 Posts |
Don't you think its odd that E would say the difficulty level is "Easy" if the effect was very angle sensitive and required a lot of practice to look good in the real world? isn't listing something as "easy" a selling point, even if it in reality it may not be? hmmm...
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
Oh well Madison ... Thanks for the review , I might have to reconsider ...
Maybe E only meant : " easy to perform for cameras ... "
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
Difficulty: Easy
That to me states no practice required. Give it up Slackerking, you wanted it to be workable but it isn't. Don't kid yourself and move on. |
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Scott Imler Special user Calgary, Canada 545 Posts |
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On Mar 2, 2016, MadisonH wrote: Madison with out revealing methods or the gimmick what is it about it, in your opinion, that is tipping spectators. Is it angles the speed of gimmick or its motion or thickness....etc. None of these factors seem to be present in the trailer. Yes I know trailers always showcase an effect in its "best light" but your review and what we see on the trailer seem 180 degrees apart. Not questioning either you or the trailer but wanted you to elaborate on the levels it misses at (if you can) with out exposing anything. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
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On Mar 2, 2016, Scott Imler wrote: Yes to all of your questions |
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NicholasLawrenceMagic Regular user 163 Posts |
Tunehv- Ive personally fooled working magicians LIVE with Chroma & concider the working to be 'easy and practial to say the least but even an "easy" trick is not technically Easy... Is it ? Its magic, there is a reason only 1% of the earths population chooses magic as there personal hobby or profession. Im quite confident using Chroma & not bothered by those who cant... Every magic product is not for everyone, see me at a convention & ill show you how a professional can take a simple tool or system and apply it to a real world situation easily & make it look like real world Workable magic, simply because it is.
I appreciate the feedback & respect your opinions, as well ill always take criticism and apply it to my future projects. |
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magic_tony Loyal user 277 Posts |
There is almost nothing more to practice with this other than flicking your wrist.
Even in the video demo you can see flashes so in real life it is worse. Low lighting helps. Cool for the camera though, especially if the card moves just out of shot during the change. More ellusionist hype as to be expected, but their claims are true: - No flaps > technically true - No folds > true - No creases > true - Use ANY cards, even Madison Blanks > true Even Madison blanks eh? - well, if you can use those cards then it must be amazing! Although you would need to adopt a 'tough guy' low pitch voice and take yourself rather seriously. |
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christopherTheConjurer New user 1 Post |
As a singular effect this looks nice and if used for a promo video would certainly add some wow. I think if added to a routine in the right way, this could add polish. but the really skill in a trick like this is in audience management. Angles shouldn't be a problem to anyone with good audience management skills. If you hold up the card and say "look" your asking to be court but if you slide it in to a routine in the right way your going to get something your audience will be talking about.
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WeiserSide1 Special user Maryland 534 Posts |
I am privy to the workings of this and I just made one up with the stuff I have around...super easy to make! Love it!
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2063 Posts |
Well I'm a huge fan of Nicholas' work, so I'm not going to argue further as the effect's limitations just arent for me. I've shared my thoughts and will move on and eagerly look forward to his next release.
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
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On Mar 2, 2016, christopherTheConjurer wrote: I think people try to justify way too many problems with the "audience management" answer. The angles are too sensitive. It's not the angles in worried about. It's the undeniable flash of color that can be seen clear as day by the spectators. |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Mar 2, 2016, christopherTheConjurer wrote: Oh dear, oh dear. Lol. "Ok, audience, on the count of 3 I want you to all close your eyes for 1 second." |
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Maxy Special user 636 Posts |
I think waving hand while change is happenning will cover any possible flash.
IMHO for this price it is a good deal. I didn't buy yet it but I will.
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tophatter Inner circle connecticut 3329 Posts |
Your better off with a DB card !
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Stucky Inner circle I'm Batman! 1355 Posts |
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On Mar 2, 2016, NicholasLawrenceMagic wrote: Well quit bugging them while they are working so they can pay more attention. Sheesh. Quote:
see me at a convention & ill show you how a professional can take a simple tool or system and apply it to a real world situation easily & make it look like real world Workable magic, simply because it is. Well aren't you rather chuffed with yourself. It makes it sound like you're insulting the rest of us who might be beneath a "pro" like yourself.
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Mar 2, 2016, Maxy wrote: Listen to Tophatter. |
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
What is the difference between this and the Rob Bromley Changing Card put out by Bob Swadling?
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Magic McKing New user 69 Posts |
After putting hours of practice in it, I can honestly say it looks great... on camera. I don't usually complain about things under $20, but I wish I didn't toss $15 away if I didn't have to. The 'secret' is just too obvious and doesn't work live. There's a reason why in the trailer it was always partially out of frame during a critical moment. Be warned.. save your money folks..
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