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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 6945 Posts 
I will Manos thanks my friend.
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1649 Posts 
No getting round this: Manos did an effect based on his whichhand work at MINDS this year in the open mic night and fully crushed me with it. Zero clue, no idea how on earth he did it.
Getting fooled so hard is increasingly rare and the experience is something of a curate's egg  my instinct used to be to snag whatever explanation is available but I'm holding off picking V2 up for a short while so I can enjoy the mystery. Brilliant stuff. Phill
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Manos Kartsakis Regular user 150 Posts 
I am glad you enjoyed it Phill. Performing for you, John Archer and Paul Brook on the open mic was the highlight of the convention for me. You were all very kind and helpful. I really enjoyed your lecture too, especially the routine which used your Quinta force. Looking forward to meeting you again next year and hopefully we will have the chance to discuss more.


celebrity Inner circle 1605 Posts 
Manos, walked me through the updates over Skype, I formatted the book, checked it over twice AND even knowing the method he STILL fooled me with it!!!!!
Manos has one beautiful mind! Best Wishes Michael
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rasp Inner circle 1024 Posts 
When Manos placed the prediction on the table before starting the routine, I knew what the outcome was going to be, as I proofread the book.............. When he turned the prediction over at the end of the routine, you could have knocked me over with a feather!!!! I never saw that coming, what a fantastic idea!!
Was a pleasure to be fooled. Rasp. 

Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3438 Posts 
Glad to have picked this up! I waffle about the logic puzzle theme. While it can be powerful and fooling, it also often asks a bit more attention and thoughtfulness of your spectator than the more direct stuff.
Manos has really found a way to get rid of many of the problems and these effects are all very easy to follow for a spectator. All of them appear more streamlined than possible on first reading, which is refreshing. Very impressive thinking. I'm very glad that Manos decided to share his discoveries with the community.
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Manos Kartsakis Regular user 150 Posts 
@Last Laugh
I am glad you liked the book. I've had the same problem you mention with logic puzzle based routines and in my work I tried to eliminate it as much as possible. Don't forget that you can get a bonus routine as I mentioned in the introduction of the book. Thanks again. Manos 

Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1331 Posts 
One aspect of truth teller vs. liar presentations that have always bumped with me is having to clearly emphasize that one person plays the role of a truth teller, and the other a liar. It's crucial that the two participants understand this concept, but for me, it sounds a bit unnatural for everyday language. To get around this I frame my presentation around the game of poker  which has a truth vs. lie component organically built in to the game.
My favorite effect from V is the Verbalist  and I hand the participants a poker chip. I explain that one of them is going to be an honest poker player (and joke that, in real life, that means a poker player who usually loses!), and one player is going to be a habitual bluffer. Within the framework of poker  theis idea of lying (bluffing) makes complete sense. 

videoman Inner circle 4405 Posts 
Mindbender, I really like your idea.
Thanks for sharing. May I use your basic concept and devise a routine of my own? 

Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1331 Posts 
Absolutely, thanks!


Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3531 Posts 
I read V2 on the plane and wow is all that I can say. Verbalist 2 in particular is simply insane. Nobody on earth could backtrack that as a logic puzzle, it's absolute genius. There actually is no sign whatsoever of any logic puzzle, none nada, zip. Same single question to each participant and it isn't a strange or odd question that you might get in a logic puzzle. Yet you can find the coin and tell both people their roles.
Manor has taken the logic puzzle to its logical conclusion and rendered electronic devices obsolete. Mark
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Manos Kartsakis Regular user 150 Posts 
I am glad you guys are enjoying the material.
Mr.Mindbender, your idea is really good. Great job. I also wanted to get away from the classic truth teller/liar premise, that's why in V2 I added some routines that do not use that premise at all. If you don't already have it I would suggest taking advantage of Mr. Murray's offer to subtract the price of the original V from V2, that means that owners of the original get the second one for just 8 pounds. Mark_Chandaue, I am glad you like Verbalist 2.0. It is one of my favourites as well. I agree it is nearly impossible to backtrack so I have no problem revealing that you just ask the spectators "Is it in this hand?" that's all. I figured since performers who use electronics ask this question anyway, why not use it as the method? P.S.: Mark I promise that next year in MINDS I will have a special surprise for all of you. 

Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3531 Posts 
Looking forward to that Manos, next year at Minds I will tell you how my drawing dupe was done 😂🤣😂
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magicinsight Inner circle 3687 Posts 
V book just arrived in New York. I look forward in start readng it tonight.
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Manos Kartsakis Regular user 150 Posts 
I'll keep an open eye for your review, Michael. I've never been in New York. At least a part of me now has. Feels kind of nice...


Rolyan Special user I'm fencing in my land; so far there are 579 Posts 
Hi Manos  is the routine that you did at the open mic night at Minds3 in the book?


JoelDickinson Inner circle UK 1248 Posts 
Everything I have read in V is brilliant. Well thought out and practical, the routines are created with the audience in mind as maximum entertainment has been added to each effect. I will provide a more thorough review soon but for now, trust what I'm saying; if you're looking for some strong practical routines then don't miss this.
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Manos Kartsakis Regular user 150 Posts 
@Rolyan
The routine I performed on the open mic at MINDS is something that I have been working on for quite some time now. The method I used to find out in which hand the object was hidden is the same as in the effect Velvet which is in the book. What I did after I knew where the object was hidden is not in the book. If you were there and saw the routine I am sure you can figure out how I did what I did from this point on, but I would advise you to hold on to it and not do it this way. The reason is quite simple. As I explained that night this effect was still in development and although I wanted to share it with everyone in that setting I knew that I had to put more work into it. That's the reason it didn't make it in the book. The method was solid, I knew it would work and that's why I had the confidence to perform it in a room full of mentalists. However, there is far more work that needs to be put into a routine than a solid method. Now I have reworked this routine completely from the ground up, using a different core method. I am confident now that it is 10 times better from what I did on the open mic. My suggestion would be to perform Velvet as it is explained in the book and wait for this one which is going to be in my next book. By the way, my next book is not going to be a collection of which hand routines. It is going to be everything else but that, and only this ONE which hand routine. @JoelDickinson Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment about my book. I hope you enjoy studying the material and I look forward to reading your thorough review. As I explain in the book, I have my own preferences among the routines, there are certain routines that I perform all the time and ones that I don't perform anymore (since others have taken their place due to my personal preference) but I genuinely think there is value in studying everything and I am sure that different people have different preferences. Can't wait to hear what your favourite routines are and how they play for you in the real world. 

Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3531 Posts 
Whatever the next book contains I will be first in line for it. Based on V and V2 and the stuff you have shared with me privately I know it is going to be filled with knockout material.
Mark
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BMWGuy Inner circle Texas 2228 Posts 
Hey guys,
Once again Manos has upped the game with his newer version of which hand called V2. This is a step up from the original V. I have used several routines from V, and they are amazing. If you liked V, you will love V2, more great thinking from a great mentalist and friend. Manos is a genious, how he comes up with these subtleties, who knows, but I sure would have loved to be present at MINDS to witness some of these in person, as well as some of his unreleased stuff. As he plans another book, with more stuff, I cannot wait to learn more from Manos. It is like when Michael Murray first stepped into the scene, after receiving praises for his material, then his limited edition book, everyone is waiting to see what Michael will do next. Well the same goes for Manos, he has caught our attention, and we await our next encounter and offerings he will share when the time is right. For now, I must say, that V2 is a game changer, and if you are into which hand routines, there is always material to learn more and more from, and V2 is no exception, you will def benefit from reading it, and your head will spin with ideas on how to use it. Thanks Alex Alejandro
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