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Hello fellow magician,

anyone know what is the best type of mat materials to use for stage manipulation? that is light & easy to travel with & also non-slip. so that when you drop your cards it won't get dirty & easy to clean up after your finished performing.

anyone have any idea?
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Not really an idea but a question. If you are doing stage manipulation, why would you need a mat? Are you looking for something to put on the stage floor? I've never seen anyone use a mat on the floor when doing card productions.
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Dave, I have! When I was working at Caesar's Magical Empire where there were multiple acts on the show and the turnaround between performers was minimal, the stage crew had a 6 x8' piece of carpeting that was placed on the floor so that the next performer would have clean stage. The carpet was dragged to the large wing area and then the performer who dropped the cards could pick them up at their leisure.

it makes perfect sense in today's working environment. If you want to see an angry crew on a cruise ship... tell them they have to clean salt, liquid, and playing cards off the floor! It is not unlike the piece of carpet that Marvyn Roy used to travel with so that when he did the milk in the lightbulb, he left no mess on the floor for the dancers who came on after him... immediately. In a professional working situation, such as a Vegas Revue they don't have time for the crew to pick up cards individually.

Depending on how much of a mess the OP makes, would determine the rug's area. I would look at rubber backed carpets from inexpensive places such as Walmart, etc; they will be less thick and roll up easier.
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Scott Alexander says and showed how he used a automobile window sun shield to catch the salt for the long salt pour. It was one of those twist and fold shields that pop open.

Taking that to a larger area, I can only think of a Pop Up Tent. Just take the tent off and keep the floor to the tent in tack. They twist and collapse up very small.
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If you've ever seen Rocco perform you will know what kind of a mess he makes.
At our SAM assembly lecture we were prepared for Rocco.
Rocco works with ice cream, cigarettes, glitter, liquids, popcorn, peanuts, snowstorms, etc.
A lot of this ends up on the floor.
We put up a 8 x 10 painters canvas tarp. The thin one.
It was light weight, folded up small and kept the floor clean.
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I think it's called a drop cloth.
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On Mar 24, 2016, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Scott Alexander says and showed how he used a automobile window sun shield to catch the salt for the long salt pour. It was one of those twist and fold shields that pop open.

Taking that to a larger area, I can only think of a Pop Up Tent. Just take the tent off and keep the floor to the tent in tack. They twist and collapse up very small.



Great idea, that can be useful for performing my indoor magic.
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Anyone know where can I find something similar like attached picture?

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It looks like two pieces of a three foot carpet runner , that was probably taped together on the underside with carpet tape. Then it was cut into a circle.
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On Mar 23, 2016, JNeal wrote:
Dave, I have! When I was working at Caesar's Magical Empire where there were multiple acts on the show and the turnaround between performers was minimal, the stage crew had a 6 x8' piece of carpeting that was placed on the floor so that the next performer would have clean stage. The carpet was dragged to the large wing area and then the performer who dropped the cards could pick them up at their leisure.

it makes perfect sense in today's working environment. If you want to see an angry crew on a cruise ship... tell them they have to clean salt, liquid, and playing cards off the floor! It is not unlike the piece of carpet that Marvyn Roy used to travel with so that when he did the milk in the lightbulb, he left no mess on the floor for the dancers who came on after him... immediately. In a professional working situation, such as a Vegas Revue they don't have time for the crew to pick up cards individually.

Depending on how much of a mess the OP makes, would determine the rug's area. I would look at rubber backed carpets from inexpensive places such as Walmart, etc; they will be less thick and roll up easier.



That makes sense. As I posted, I've never seen it but that didn't mean it didn't exist. I wasn't thinking about anything other than cards based on the OP's description of what he wanted.
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Dave you are right... he didn't mention anything other than cards. But have you noticed how card manipulation acts have gone into 'overdrive' in the last few years?

I used to watch Norm Nielsen catching his cards in the net attached to his table... rarely did one actually hit the floor. In those days, guys often dropped the crds into a top hat! Then during Lance Burton's generation, card manipulation became more physical, with turns and pivots by the performer and cards landed more often than not... on the floor.

And now with the Asian magicians of the last two FISM generations... Cards are in abundance: in the air, on the floor, cascading everywhere... wonderful displays! (and a nuisance to clean up.)
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Wow! nice one sam2452, I think I probably getting that. Smile
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Jar Marshall told me the old time vaudeville act would advertise..."Coming East with all new drop cloths". It was a necessity in vaudeville. David and Dania use one all the time. Can you imagine if a multi million dollar contract basketball player slipped on a piece of their mylar confetti. I have also notice a lot of the Asian card maniipulator (tossers) using them. Like Dennis Haney said...."I don't know why they put a hat on stage...not one *** card go it!".
The type of material you use depends on shat you are doing on the cloth. I used to use a 6 x 6 black square for my salt pour so I could clean up. But if I were using it the whole act and moving on it, I would have needed something than would not slip or move. I now some guys use a marlee (sp) surface used for dancing on the floor.
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I use top hat in my card manipulation act also, but not all the card get in there. because I think some move & body posture I need to drop the card on the floor , it seems to me like it is more artistic.. I don't know.. but for top hat is where I can get my next load of card.

& btw, Thanks for your Bare hand silk production Mr. Hughes! I use it for my act also. it is quite helpful.. nothing compare with my previous bare hand silk production, where I sometime pre-maturely release the trigger.. huh..

Your's the ace for Bare hand silk production! Smile Smile Smile
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