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philipmac
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I was wondering what people knew about the quality of Hampton Ridges Dime and Penny set. This is because one of the reviews on Penguin Magic's web site said that the penny loses its colour after only a few performances. Does anyone know anything about this?
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It was my beleif that Penguin sold the Sterling D & P. However, I could be wrong. Save yourself the aggravation and get a Johnson D & P. You'll pay a few bucks more, but the quality is worth it.

http://www.themagicwarehouse.com/johnson.html

Howard sells it for $15, which is pretty much a standard price so far as I've seen.
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Also check out David Acer's "Spare Change" for a new spin on D & P.

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I second Wildstone on Johnson's set. You'll be paying more, but it is an excellent investment. The one sold on Penguin (Sterling, btw) feels like it's made of aluminum, and will severly loosen and discolor, actually blackens, over a short period of time (2 weeks for me). Also, it screams out "fake coin", as it looks like one.
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Can the same be said for all of Sterling's products? I know Johnson's gaffs are always of higher quality and, given the choice, I always go with them. However, I've been considering some of the gold Sacagawea coin effects and, as far as I can tell, Sterling is the only company that manufactures them. Should I just not bother? I have no desire to shell out (no pun intended) hundreds of dollars to Todd Lassen for a single effect.

Thanks, fellas.
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I bought a Dime & Penny from a little gag shop near here for about $3. It was on a rack beside whoopie coushions and fake dog poop. I've been using it pretty steady for a few months and it seems to be holding up really well. I can't remember the brand, though. Still, best $3 bucks I have ever spent!
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The Miracle coin (gold dollar / quarter version of Coin Unique) isn't made by Sterling... is it? I don't think it is. And I've heard the quality of it is very good. That opens the door for many routines (matrix, vanishes, etc.) It's about $45, which isn't cheap.
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You know I'd second the vote for "Spare Change" by Acer.
It's a great routine and something that you will always want to carry with you, wherever you go.

I believe Camirand still carries it as well as Hank Lee.
Not sure who else but it is currently available.

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Thanks for the recommendation on Coin Unique, Mike. I was wondering if I should pick one up but a lot of times the actual product doesn't stand up to the description. (Quarter Flight, anybody?)

Anyway, I was referring to the gold dollar Scotch and Soda. I'd like to be able to do the ol' Scotch and Soda bit with coins indigenous coins. I think Sterling is the only company that makes a copy, and last time I checked, they were having such a hard time getting a hold of the gold dollars that they stopped making them. Anyone know if their version is any good or if anyone else makes a similar effect?
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I'll put in a third vote for "Spare Change". It's a great routine. I adapted it, a number of years ago, to a Johnson "Sun and Moon" coin set.
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Spare Change by David Acer is an awesome piece of 'impromptu magic'. Anyone know where one can purchase just the 'special something' without another set of instructions?!?
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Back to the original Dime & Penny question for a minute. No question that the Johnson version is well made, with a neatly designed brass bang ring to boot.

However, I've found that the Royal Magic version, which retails for about $5, is just as good. Although it doesn't lock quite as tightly as the Johnson set, it's still more than adequate and that fact isn't crucial in my opinion, since I doubt you'd want to give it out for examination anyway. Additionally, it can be reset without using a bang ring, which is an advantage for table strollers or pitchmen.

I've been using and selling the Royal set for several months now and am very pleased with the quality and the durability. I looked at a few different sources for the set and am happy that I chose to go with Royal. Incidentally, both the Royal and the Hampton Ridge (HR) lines are sold by Fun, Inc. out of Chicago. I believe the HR line is their middle-priced line. I'm not sure what type of Dime & Penny set HR offers or what it costs, but I believe you'd be very satisfied with the Royal version. At that price, you can buy two Royal sets, have a spare on hand, and still spend less than the Johnson version would cost. (I'm not knocking the Johnson set, in fact I own one and it's great. But for everyday use, the Royal set is very good.)

You can get the Royal Magic set from Magic Warehouse, which sells the Johnson set, too. See http://themagicwarehouse.com/coins.html#co1240. Magic Warehouse also sells a Royal DVD for about $10, "25 Tricks with a Dime & Penny or a Scotch & Soda." This is well worth the money and actually has a number of very clever ideas for combining the coin set with some well-known sleights that are also taught on the DVD. Good Luck! SETH
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Spare Change. I love this trick, goes over very well. I got mine around six months ago and have had some very good luck with this ever since. I picked it up from The Magic Warehouse for around $14 and since I use it and really love it, it was well worth the price.

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I got D & P not long ago from Penguin, and what I got was the Royal Magic version. The S**** discolored very quickly, causing uneven front/back coloring on the penny. I cleaned it up once with a couple of drops of lemon juice and a buff, but the discoloration reappeared almost immediately.
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Foucault -- Sorry to hear about the discoloring on your D/P set. I'm wondering --my set isn't discolored (it's not tarnished), but it is "dirty," like a regular penny might be, and it's evenly dirty on both sides.

I have never tried to clean it up, since my own thinking is that shiny money does not look as natural as regular circulated coins, especially if you're using gaffed coins. But I've never had the tarnishing problem that you describe.

Have you contacted Penguin or Royal about this problem? Might be worth an e-mail. SETH
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If the tarnishing looked natural and even, I wouldn't bother about it either, but it doesn't look like a real penny at the moment.

Looking at reviews, etc., it seems that some people have problems with the tarnishing and some do not. This leads me to think that either the product is inconsistent, or there's something about certain body chemistry that results in this. But you're right, I should contact Penguin about it.
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By the way, I had always assumed that the penny in a D/P set was actually made from a real penny. If that's true, then the copper exterior should hold up just like a real penny would (I believe that real pennies today aren't solid copper, which would be too expensive; I think they are just copper coated). On the other hand, if the penny is specially made up from aluminium or some other metal, then it wouldn't perform like a real penny over the long haul.

Perhaps a few gaffed coin experts can chime in here and help to solve this mystery? SETH
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The coin set, an invention of T. Nelson Downs was made from real US coins last I saw. Also a tiny verision of the Sun/Moon if you like that trick. Anyone gotten a set of Slippery Sams made this way?
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I also recommend Spare Change. I did this for the first time the other night and it went over very well. I picked this up because of the recommendations here at the Café and I'm glad I did. I deffinately had some fun performing this coin routine.

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On 2005-08-22 13:06, Barrett_James wrote:
Spare Change by David Acer is an awesome piece of 'impromptu magic'. Anyone know where one can purchase just the 'special something' without another set of instructions?!?


You're looking for a Non-locking Dime and Penny set. If Johnson products makes one, I'd get that. I avoid the cheaper sets like the plague.
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