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Thomas Walter
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Thanks tonsofquestions and NicholasD for your suggestions. I'll check out both, and making your own gaffed chips is probably the way to go.
Thanks again guys.
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On May 25, 2016, tonsofquestions wrote:
Tango makes some nice two-colored Chinese coins, and he's very good at responding by email.

I bet if you reached out he'd be willing to make some with poker chips for you.

And now I'm imagining some C/S Poker Chip TUCs - kind of like the US Half/English Penny C/S TUC...


he made me one to play with. There is an edge problem possibly solved by making it black instead of multicolored.

If you want to use it with a Shell like those supplied with his chip sets you have to request the gaff to be shaved.
The shell is not "expanded" -- can't be. and a normal Exp [ silver dollar will not work, while the new Super TUC shell will.

I have suggested a set for him to market with several gaff so that a CSB effect could be performed also.

Interest shown here might help convince him Smile

I have also queried having sets made from chips supplied by the user. That way, they would match you set of 500 chips for weekly poker.
I like my heavier ones with the metal clank.
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Joe Porper made, but unfortunately no longer makes - Poker Chip Surprise, which was a great take on Connie Haden's Double Copper Silver (which is the classic "one copper-two silver").
Porpers chips were masterfully machined out of real clay poker chips, and his edge was invisible.

Does Tango have anything like one copper-two silver? ... along with the ungaffed chips required to show cleanly?
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I believe it's "Two copper one silver", not the other way around.
Tango does make this: https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/......-silver/

However, if you're asking if they make it in poker chips, the answer is no, because they don't even do a C/S poker chip right now. But, again, I bet you could send them an email, and they'd give you a quote on doing a custom one for you.
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LOL, you're right ... I did say that Poker Chip Surprise was based on Connie's Double Copper Silver - which made my error not then saying "two copper-one silver"!

Indeed I was asking about Poker Chips.

It's too bad Tango doesn't make this kind of poker chip gaff, as Porper doesn't make Poker Chip Surprise any longer, and the routine done with poker chips is a great routine, especially for those who focus on a gambling theme and don't want to use coins.
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On May 28, 2016, Artie Fufkin wrote:
Joe Porper made, but unfortunately no longer makes - Poker Chip Surprise, which was a great take on Connie Haden's Double Copper Silver (which is the classic "one copper-two silver").
Porpers chips were masterfully machined out of real clay poker chips, and his edge was invisible.

Does Tango have anything like one copper-two silver? ... along with the ungaffed chips required to show cleanly?


While I like the idea of this set being made with poker chips, I've always been disappointed by the fact that the chips used to make the set are the cheapest, lowest quality chips out there. It would be nice if Tango or anyone else would make this set with high quality chips.
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Joe Porper used real casino style "clay" chips, of the highest quality.

So it has, and can be done!
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Joe Porper used real casino style "clay" chips, of the highest quality.

So it has, and can be done!


And will be done again! We're looking at bringing out the poker chip surprise (and other things) before the end of the year.

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Joe Porper used real casino style "clay" chips, of the highest quality.

So it has, and can be done!



More specifically, Joe's chips were TR King chips in the "small crown" mold style if memory serves.

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I am debating buying some of these.
Does anyone have any feedback about how difficult these chips are to palm?
I have small hands, and obviously these chips don't have milled edges.
I've got my hands full trying to palm an Eisenhower or Morgan dollar.
Thanks advance for any observations, or perhaps ideas on ways to make them easier to palm (?)
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These are slightly larger than Dollar coins (~39mm vs 38.1mm) so if you have trouble with full dollars, these will be even harder. They're also a fair bit lighter - and while some prefer that, I like the extra weight of metal.

Unrelated: I'd be curious how these compare to the new Sucker Punch set of gaffs, and whether the sizes for shells/TUCs is equivalent.
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Probably a challenge for me. Thank you "tonsofquestions" Smile
Warning re: Sucker Punch chip set: I am aware that Viking Magic likes these chips, but be aware that the "color" on the chips is created with STICKERS. That was enough for me to pass on them.
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Another (slightly off topic) question:
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JasonEngland wrote:

More specifically, Joe's chips were TR King chips in the "small crown" mold style if memory serves.

Jason
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Does anyone know FOR SURE what kind of chips Joe Porper uses to create his gaffs ??
Thanks for any help!
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In my experience, poker chips are very easy to palm in comparison to coins. They're lighter and the edges sort of cling to your hand. Most, if not all of the Joe Porper chip effects were made with Welcome to Las Vegas chips ( I don't know the manufacturer ) which IMO are not as authentic looking as standard gaming chips. I changed the center labels on my Poker Chip Surprise so that they would look more like a classic poker chip. I ordered sucker punch and if they are in fact made with sticker, I'll most certainly change them.
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Thanks for the feedback Nicholas!
Re: What chips does Joe Porper use...I did some quick research and unless I'm mistaken the TR King company has gone out of business. So I emailed illusion.works and asked (on the "contact us" web page) if they could share that info. Scott Jenkins (THANK YOU Scott!) who now markets Joe Porper's products at illusion.works got back to me within an hour or two...on a Saturday!! He THINKS Joe used various brands of chips over the years...just FYI. He said if he learned more specifics he would get back to me. Now that's great customer service!!
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In my experience, poker chips are very easy to palm in comparison to coins. They're lighter and the edges sort of cling to your hand. Most, if not all of the Joe Porper chip effects were made with Welcome to Las Vegas chips ( I don't know the manufacturer ) which IMO are not as authentic looking as standard gaming chips. I changed the center labels on my Poker Chip Surprise so that they would look more like a classic poker chip. I ordered sucker punch and if they are in fact made with sticker, I'll most certainly change them.



Hi Nicholas! If you get time would you be willing to share how you change center labels on poker chips? This may be a foolish sounding question but I'm not at all handy and have never modified a gaff in my life LOL.
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On Oct 23, 2016, NicholasD wrote:
In my experience, poker chips are very easy to palm in comparison to coins. They're lighter and the edges sort of cling to your hand. Most, if not all of the Joe Porper chip effects were made with Welcome to Las Vegas chips ( I don't know the manufacturer ) which IMO are not as authentic looking as standard gaming chips. I changed the center labels on my Poker Chip Surprise so that they would look more like a classic poker chip. I ordered sucker punch and if they are in fact made with sticker, I'll most certainly change them.



Hi Nicholas! If you get time would you be willing to share how you change center labels on poker chips? This may be a foolish sounding question but I'm not at all handy and have never modified a gaff in my life LOL.


If you Google Welcome To Las Vegas Poker chips, you'll see the various designs that Joe Porper has used in the past.

As far as changing the labels, I purchased Monte Carlo Poker Club chips ( you can pick whatever denomination you want ) because I liked the classy look of the chip. I used an X-acto knife to carefully remove the center labels from the chips I wanted to switch. You must be very careful that you don't damage the label that you want to switch in. Once you get the labels off of both chips, you won't need any extra glue because the label will already have enough adhesive to do the job.
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Super helpful Nicholas. Thanks VERY much for all the help!! -Paul
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PS: I went ahead and ordered Sucker Punch. If indeed they use stickers now I know how to fix that!
Viking Magic sent out an email to their "email subscribers" specifically recommending Sucker Punch.
George at Viking stated that he rarely recommends things, but he thought Sucker Punch was such a good value, he made an exception.
I've worked with him for years. I think very highly of George and Viking Magic. That endorsement holds quite a bit of weight with me.
My opinion plus $5 MIGHT get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks LOL.
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Magnetic Scotch and Soda Poker Chips by Tango
Has anyone ordered and played with this set yet?
Any feedback appreciated.
-Paul
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