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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1849 Posts |
Add a third kicker and also have your spec's ring attached to the security FOB!
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VanishingInc Veteran user 322 Posts |
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On Apr 21, 2016, Themediocremagician wrote: I did it at a show last night wearing my tailored suit and it went great. -Kyle
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2063 Posts |
I assume you can use any tag, correct? doesn't have to be one of the two supplied?
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Powermagic Inner circle 1437 Posts |
So is this an opener? everyone is started with it ready to with pad in hand. That is not a real world demo if you ask me.
Kyle says can be done any time and resets fast. Really? So if it is on your back you can reset and be ready to do it at another time or are you saying as you put it on you can reset and be ready to perform it again but not really at a later time? Also I notice open clothing. If wearing a buttoned vest that is form fitting, there wont be any concerns? I have a pretty good idea what is going on so could see it being an issue without open jacket or open shirt. ALso on the back of the clothing, I assume it is a different handling and maybe more that could be exposed or is this all been covered. Can that version be done with tight angles? I see many spectators handling the tag. Does the gimmick l$@k or could they see something if they try to bring it closer to them? Yes I don't care for the writing on the pad as that was the first one that seemed to be odd but do like some of the suggestions in the thread. While the creator said no one told him they thought it was odd, who is to say they still felt it was and just did not say? People are nice. I read he Michel puts the pad down on the table. But not one demo this way so not sure why as that maybe seems less odd Anyway, if one could answer my questions that would be great. |
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VanishingInc Veteran user 322 Posts |
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On Apr 21, 2016, Powermagic wrote: Hey man - You can re set from table to table as you walk to the next table. You don't have to take the tag off if that's what you're asking. They don't talk about on the dvd but a single button jacket I think would work buttoned. I don't think a multiple button vest would work if buttoned. They only way that would work is if it was on the back of the vest. -Kyle
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Themediocremagician New user 37 Posts |
That's a great question from powermagic. Does it lock in case you have the spectator touch the tag?
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jerdunn Inner circle 1734 Posts |
I've ordered Priceless and hereby offer a "logical disconnect" for anyone wanting to add a further layer of impossibility to an already baffling, beautiful (and funny) effect: Have the writing on the pad and on the tag be two different colors.
To accomplish this, you'll need to use a Chromatic pen (or any similar style that writes several colors). You'll also need to place a standard blank white sticker on the target area of the Priceless tag. To illustrate, using a screen shot from Kyle's demo video, imagine the blank sticker where the price is written (see below). Using different colors of ink on the pad and tag would make it impossible for a pesky, over-thinking spectator to backtrack. And for "normal" people, I think it adds an unconscious conviction that deepens the mystery. I first ran across this idea in the great Anthony Lindan / Dan Garrett effect called "Fortune and Fate," which came with a Chromatic pen that wrote blue and red. Cheers, Jerry Click here to view attached image. |
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ashah Elite user 474 Posts |
I had an idea similar to Jerry's where you insert the "wrong" color ink into a pen. So for example, you have a red (on the outside) pen that actually has black ink inside. Then you start the effect with something written in red on the notepad (which matches the outside of your pen) while the price on the tag appears in black. Voila, instant convincer!
I don't know how easy it is to create such a pen though. Maybe the pen that Jerry is referring to makes it easier! |
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2063 Posts |
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On Apr 21, 2016, jerdunn wrote: That was what I was thinking as well which is why I asked if it works with any tags- might be easier to just use a new tag per performance as they are super cheap. |
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Powermagic Inner circle 1437 Posts |
One thing about magic tricks for sale has always been the comments of "Can also be done..." but really the effect is best designed for a particular use.
I see all starting with the pad in hand. The question I did ask was is this the best way to do it or do they provide a way to be able to pull out the pad at any time and go into it when you want to, not having to be pad in hand before starting? I also don't figure you can just reset this if it is on your back. I could be wrong but the reset you Kyle is speaking of would be needed with the jacket off and you do the reset while putting it back on. Whether or it l#3ks and can be in wait was what I would need for this to be practical. It does seem like it would hang up with a vest if not doing it on the back. ANd thus I asked if any sight lines or angles change if you do it with that method as I suspect it might. I just need to know how practical this is so feel free to PM me. |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
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On Apr 21, 2016, ashah wrote: This idea has been used before - with certain Confabulation routines like Cody's as I recall. Great idea.
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jerdunn Inner circle 1734 Posts |
Ashah -- Nice idea! And cheaper than buying a Chromatic pen, too.
You could probably use a Sharpie (and maybe a wet-erase marker too) by switching caps, and if needed coloring the plastic nib with the "wrong" color. I believe Brett (Saysold) is correct about Cody Fisher having employed this idea. Cheers, Jerry |
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Michel Huot Regular user Montreal 199 Posts |
I do it in the middle of my act. I pull the pad in front of everybody. No worries
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Edgar Alstad2 New user 9 Posts |
I have the same question as Powermagic and Themediocremagician. Does it lock? I'm using a topit in my jacket and can't take it off. Can a spectator touch the tag and read the price?
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Gaijin Regular user 175 Posts |
I don't own it (yet, it is very tempting) but I suspect that it doesn't lock while being in a position to be examined, just because most gimmicks of this type don't.
But I would be interested to know if it locks like other regular gimmicks of these types lock, so that you could do it at any moment of your show without having to fumble deep in your jacket. Is it also comfortable to wear? It seems a little bit bulkier than I initially thought after seeing it on vid. |
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Ross W Inner circle UK 1778 Posts |
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On Apr 21, 2016, VanishingInc wrote: "Whatsupeverybody Kai marlere forvashinkmagk..." What?!?! |
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Daren Inner circle 2051 Posts |
Looks fantastic!!!!
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Robb Inner circle 1291 Posts |
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On Apr 20, 2016, Kevin Burn wrote: This is quite obviously a variation of T.A. Water's effect. I HOPE he was properly credited as the originator of the effect, if not the particular presentation (which is good). |
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DrewBstoss Special user SLC, Utah 581 Posts |
I'm traveling and therefore away from my library at the moment but I believe that T.A. Waters credits someone else for the idea of a prediction clipped to the back of a jacket - I could absolutely be wrong though...I'll check when I return home in a couple of days.
To be blunt..."Priceless" seems like a double edged sword to me. In one way it solves the problem of a finicky set-up and is MUCH more user friendly, BUT in another way it seems to be a step BACKWARDS in the deceptiveness of the plot. IMHO a prediction PINNED to your back appears much more convincing and organic than a large fob that only slightly (although cleverly) masks what it truly is... There's no denying that "Priceless" boasts many advantages (both in terms of technical requirements as well as the entertainment value in the gag) but for me at least they don't outweigh the obviousity of the method...and I don't believe that I'm "thinking too much like a magician". That said, hats off to everyone who brought this product to market - it looks like a fantastic piece of kit. Best, Drew
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Faizimran New user 51 Posts |
I think its a great effect I will wait for a few reviews before I buy it but is it possible for the writing on the tag to smear while your taking the coat or jacket off?
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