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Is this worth it for someone like me who will not perform the whole effect, maybe only segments?
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On May 17, 2016, GeorgeKerzon wrote:
Is this worth it for someone like me who will not perform the whole effect, maybe only segments?


If there are parts of this act that you wish to learn and perform then its worth every penny to you Smile
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On May 18, 2016, GeorgeKerzon wrote:
Is this worth it for someone like me who will not perform the whole effect, maybe only segments?


I'm very curious though which segment you're interesting in performing as a stand alone .
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Well. Now that I have it, it turns out that absolutely none of the speculation in this thread is correct. No stooges. And the signatures that the two spectators put on the cards are never duplicated, not mechanically or by hand, nor do they ever sign any other cards before or during the routine. The routine is very carefully choreographed down to every movement, and there are often several things going on at once. There are methods to learn, including a couple I didn't know, but the important part is the choreography. It's a very specific motion script. The angles aren't bad. It can be performed live. The version sold is basically the Fool Us version with a couple upgrades, which aren't very useful in a live performance, but he does give alternates. There are more gimmicks to be bought or made than I had anticipated. And I, for one, can imagine parts that could be learned and performed without doing the whole act. Perhaps most obvious is, to quote Penn, "how to vanish the m************ marker!"

One thing I was disappointed to discover is that there are elements in the routine that don't really work for female magicians. That's kind of a peeve of mine, the complete lack of thinking about the challenges for women in so many commercial tricks, wardrobes, magazine articles, etc., because there are so few of us. Vanishing the marker is among the female unfriendly portions of this routine.

If you have a reliable classic force, you can perform the routine much more easily than Shin teaches it, but you can never miss or you'll have a disaster on your hands.

It's definitely not a routine that you watch a couple times and then you can do it. There is a lot of content, and much of it is specific to the routine. Knowing its secrets, I actually like the routine better, now. There is even some misdirection in it that is specifically designed to mess with the heads of magicians. Gotta like that. Smile
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On May 17, 2016, GeorgeKerzon wrote:
Is this worth it for someone like me who will not perform the whole effect, maybe only segments?


In my opinions: YES !
It is definitely worth even if you will not perform the whole thing.
Not only you will find some segments that you may use individually into your routine; you will also get a lot about creativity, choreography, putting a routine together.
To me it has been incredibly inspiring.
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Hey guys,

Does anyone want me to review this in depth?

I can, just let me know if anyone is interested.

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Well yes sir I'm interested Smile
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I am interested as well. I still do not understand why it wasn't reviewed on WPR this week?
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The only stooges involved are those who purchase this item.
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Wpr did kind of review it.
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I am interested as well. I still do not understand why it wasn't reviewed on WPR this week?


Thanks for bringing up that show , I almost forgot they've a review this week .
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I am interested as well. I still do not understand why it wasn't reviewed on WPR this week?


Thanks for bringing up that show , I almost forgot they've a review this week .


did you have a link?
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On May 29, 2016, kazpet wrote:
I am interested as well. I still do not understand why it wasn't reviewed on WPR this week?


Thanks for bringing up that show , I almost forgot they've a review this week .


did you have a link?

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=289
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Hey guys,

Alex here with another review for you all, and this time it is with Shin Lim's Dream Act.

Whats In the Box?

You get a 2hour and 43 minute DVD with everything explained every detail.

You also get a special gimmick for the smoke, as well as another gimmick that looks like it came out of a James Bond movie.

You also get lots of gimmicked cards as well in the package.

The DVD first off covers the basic Fool Us effect that you have seen on youtube, and then afterwards, everything is broken down with a behind the scenes type angle so you can see everything that is going on.

There are some arts and crafts involved, but you will have the necessary around the house to make some of the gimmicks, they are not hard to make.

What you don't get is SSS which is a smoke device put out by Shin a while back, but he says you don't really need it for this routine.

Thoughts about the overall production values: It is basically Shin Lim I believe at someones house, with 2 friends, and him explaining everything to you......not much production values, but you get the essentials that you need to understand him fully, as well as appreciate the routine to its fullest.

Thoughts on arts and crafts: Again, not hard to make, if you don't have some stuff, you can get most of it at your local office suplly store, so I understand why they didn't include the gimmicks, since everyone is different and will adapt the gimmicks to their liking.

Thoughts on sound: Sounds was good, you could hear everything very clearly on the DVD, and no interruptions.

Thoughts on explanation/instruction: Again, very very good, Shin starts off with the basics of the whole routine, but then on the second part of the DVD goes in depth step by step.

Note: You will need to buy, a special something, that does not come with the DVD, or the package, but shouldnt cost you that much. Heck you can even build one up....this gimmick allows you to be able to lap and ditch items, as most of you will already know what it is.

Thoughts on psychology: Very well explained on the psychology of every action and move, and why he does them at the required time.

Note on angles: 45 degree angle from the table with 2 spectators.

Thoughts on secret of whole routine: Once you learn how all of this works, and then you go back and watch the full performance on youtube, everything becomes clear, and you actually appreciate the routine more. I was gobsmacked after learning this, and watching the routine, on how most of this whole routine plays out and works, but overall I was applauding Shin for the creativity that went behind building such an act.

Thoughts on act structure/routine: Shin covers this on the DVD, and is great because you get to really understand what it is like to prepare an act and structure it accordingly.

Overall thoughts: Now, I feel that this whole act is worthy of study of anyone who really wants to learn on how to build an act and put it together, learn some new moves and routining to add to your work, and in some cases, even people that want to take on the task of learning the act in its entirety, I feel that the asking price is right, since you are getting a lot of value for lots of advice.

There is something that I thought was really clever, Shin uses a mentalism principle on stage, for us mentalists, you will know what that is, and does it in such a beautiful way.

I guess some people might get this, and dismiss it, because of the following reasons:

a) will never perform the act
b) too much work to set everything up
c) might feel its not worth it because of items included for price
d) clothing requirements(only if you want to vanish the marker, and one other part of the routine for vanishing)
e) all the above

I believe everyone will view this differently, and some people's trash will be other people's treasure.

I also think that some will not see the true value of this release, not just the routine or gimmicks, but lots more.

My overall rating on a scale of 100 is 85/100

Thanks

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Thank you for a another great review.
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Some folks value two hundred bucks more than I do. For me, it was worth it just to get a peek under the hood, even though I have no intention of ever performing this routine. Indeed, I can't imagine anyone other than Shin performing it, because it is "so him." Still, I'm glad I bought it, because I am working on creating a very artistic stage routine that is done to music and without speech, so just learning the approach to creating the Dream Act was helpful.

I'd love to hear if anyone actually performs this, and if so, where.
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World Magic did not feel they had to or could review the Dream Act by Shin Lim, but Ekaterina Dobrokhotova did review this somewhat.

If you would like to view her thoughts, here is the video review.


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Just saw this yesterday too. Happy to ‘see‘ a review.
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Great and honest review. It seems very contradictory to supply the SSS instructions but no gimmick. If your selling 'the act' then surely you should be supplied with everything you need to perform it. To me it seems like a way of up selling his additional products, which is a great marketing move but not so good for customer experience.
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As I recall, SSS was sold basically as a how-to-build it, without much included in the package. He taught you where to source the materials. I could be wrong if he released later editions, though.
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