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Those delicious flavorings in e-cigs contain diacetyl, which has been known to cause Bronchiolitis obliterans.

I personally know of a magician who developed pneumonia from performing the illusion "Smoke."

My co-worker's daughter developed bronchitis as a result of vaping.

Believe what you want. Inhaling toxic chemicals, whether it's made by mother nature or man-made, is *never* a good thing health wise.

Just my two cents...
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Hopefully we'll have a review(s) shortly so things will return to a more civil matter.
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Hi,
i think that this product can be good only for magicans that usually works with a lot of public, or for video.

infact the second spectator don't uderstand very well the act, and the first one could discover it easy.

The show is for the rest of the people.
So if you usually have a close up magic for only 1-2 person every time, it is not for you.

If at the opposite you have a lot of public it is good.

Than we must consider that you must pay other money for a lot of things:
- every time you must buy new cards
- I think that you must to create a special dress
- some parts of the act are good only for camera, and for close up is not ok (same problems of 52 shades of red).

I consider this act the most beautiful act in the world today, and I studied it a lot in the previous months.
I know every part very well, and I know how he did every part. But for now never I made in a private show for the problems above.
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On May 15, 2016, Andre_Sant wrote:
Hi,
i think that this product can be good only for magicans that usually works with a lot of public, or for video.

infact the second spectator don't uderstand very well the act, and the first one could discover it easy.

But for now never I made in a private show for the problems above.


shock horror, what you describe there are instant stooges and duplicate cards...
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FWIW, Shin's mother, Mabel, insists that there are no stooges used in this routine. She finds the notion highly insulting to her son. I asked, and that's what she told me.


i can confirm that Shin Lim does not use stooges !
100% !

the only problem is that the second person will understand the trick if this person is not supid
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On May 15, 2016, Andre_Sant wrote:
Hi,
i think that this product can be good only for magicans that usually works with a lot of public, or for video.

infact the second spectator don't uderstand very well the act, and the first one could discover it easy.

But for now never I made in a private show for the problems above.


shock horror, what you describe there are instant stooges and duplicate cards...



no stooges !
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Which leaves....
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the only problem is that the second person will understand the trick if this person is not supid


Not really... I think he/she might experience parts of the act little differently or be more suspicious about parts of it but most of the time he will be as fooled as rest of the audience.

That said, most people are making their claims about stooges, dupes and such from Fool us performance and arent aware of that it has been cleaned up in the editing room. Its more on the lines of "what laymen would see in the act" and some "stuff" (very quick stuff though) happens out of camera or is just edited. But to compensate this one also has to remember that Fool us performance wasnt the final version of the act that is on sale now since the act was still used to tie FISM first price in card magic with Horret Wu and it was still in development while Fool us was filmed. There are bits and pieces in the act that are cleaner than what is seen on Fool us performance.

J-M
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The second person will undestand the trick only at the end of the trick if this person will speak with other spectators, or if this person will see again the show in a video.


so: if you have an high public it is ok, because also if 1 or 2 persons will understand the trick is not a big problem.

but if you do the trick only for 2 persons it does not make sense
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Every trick has got pro and cons.

the pro is that if you have a large public you will show a fantastic trick (the best one)

the con is that there is an high probability to have 1 - 2 persons discover it after the trick
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Im not wanting to do the complete act, there are just a couple things that interest me and I would like to learn those and use them if feasible.
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Killing cells in a petri dish proves very little, otherwise clinical trials would not be needed, studies set out to prove things, its how they get funded. the results of those studies are often biased towards the results they were after, to get more funding, hence the reason they always state that more research is needed,

Ignorance of the highest order. Then again, a university degree or knowledge of the scientific method or grant application is not needed to post on a forum about magic tricks.
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You people can nit pick anything, and make speculation about things you don't know..............

Why I changed my handle and hardly post on the Café...

Biased opinions

and

hack arm chair magician opinions....

With love

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Killing cells in a petri dish proves very little, otherwise clinical trials would not be needed, studies set out to prove things, its how they get funded. the results of those studies are often biased towards the results they were after, to get more funding, hence the reason they always state that more research is needed,

Ignorance of the highest order. Then again, a university degree or knowledge of the scientific method or grant application is not needed to post on a forum about magic tricks.


not at all, everything I said there is true.
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FWIW, Shin's mother, Mabel, insists that there are no stooges used in this routine. She finds the notion highly insulting to her son. I asked, and that's what she told me.


i can confirm that Shin Lim does not use stooges !
100% !

the only problem is that the second person will understand the trick if this person is not supid


what you just described is the definition of an instant stooge.
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On May 15, 2016, Andre_Sant wrote:
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On May 10, 2016, danaruns wrote:
FWIW, Shin's mother, Mabel, insists that there are no stooges used in this routine. She finds the notion highly insulting to her son. I asked, and that's what she told me.


i can confirm that Shin Lim does not use stooges !
100% !

the only problem is that the second person will understand the trick if this person is not supid


what you just described is the definition of an instant stooge.



yes, but I think that the second person will understand only when the trick is finished, and when he/she will tell with other persons.

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to korttihai_82:
yes this second person will understand only a part of the trick, but it is the core part
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I think that 200$ is too much for amatorial magicans, but it can be ok for professional magicans with a large public.

If you can not afford 200$ I remember you that:

- in: "shin lim at the table live lecture", he explains many things about this act (but not everything..) and he shows it again. (he explains a lot also about 52shades of red in the same lecture): 17,95 usd

- in SSS FIRST EDITION (not 2015) he explains about the smoke from the mouth (you don't find it in sss 2015), and about the smoke from the table

- in gone deck http://www.shinlimmagic.com/shop/gone-deck he explains about the transformation of the deck in a card

- in the switch http://www.shinlimmagic.com/shop/the-switch he explains some other things (but you find it also in a table live lecture)


In the table live lecture you find also the approach to the magic of Shin Lim

In the Shin Lim youtube channel he inserts also another video of this "dream act". I think that you can have a better idea than the fool us performance
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Anyone else notice that the mp4 file (both on-line version and download) is corrupted? The last segment 'freezes' in several places and will not play properly.
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Anyone else notice that the mp4 file (both on-line version and download) is corrupted? The last segment 'freezes' in several places and will not play properly.


You should try downloading again, I didn't notice any freezing.
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