On May 14, 2016, 1KJ wrote:
John,



One note: You probably already thought about this, but given you can't hand out the deck for examination, I think you should be prepared to put the deck away and do something else. I would follow this up with something like a coin trick and plan on keeping a second deck in my pocket.

KJ

On May 14, 2016, Kaliix wrote:
Did the spectator somehow have magical powers to know where the card is? Maybe I'm missing something. Help me out here.

On May 14, 2016, On The Offbeat wrote:

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On May 14, 2016, 1KJ wrote:
John,



One note: You probably already thought about this, but given you can't hand out the deck for examination, I think you should be prepared to put the deck away and do something else. I would follow this up with something like a coin trick and plan on keeping a second deck in my pocket.

KJ

Haven't performed this yet but I'm not sure I agree with you on this.
Not as far as switching out the deck but this is a very strong effect and given the presentation and build up I'm feeling this effect should be a closer.
Maybe start with a regular deck effect, then a coin trick and switch in for this to end.

On May 14, 2016, 1KJ wrote:
John,

I agree with you. I have so many CAAN versions and so many of them involve quite a bit of work to get them right, or, there is a gimmick involved and the routine isn't any better than my impromptu CAAN (Which isn't that difficult BTW). This one, however, while it involves a gimmicked deck and you can't repeat it or use the deck as a normal deck, is SO easy and yet SO powerful!

If I am performing casually with a regular deck, I'll do my impromptu version, but if I'm going to perform prepared, I'm bringing this one.

One note: You probably already thought about this, but given you can't hand out the deck for examination, I think you should be prepared to put the deck away and do something else. I would follow this up with something like a coin trick and plan on keeping a second deck in my pocket.

KJ

On May 14, 2016, Kaliix wrote:
The trick looks amazing but I'm not sure about the presentation. It's not that it's bad or anything, I just to don't get the point. Is it a coincidence that the card is at the number? It's not really a prediction. Did the magician cause the card to be a that location? Did the spectator somehow have magical powers to know where the card is? Maybe I'm missing something. Help me out here.

On May 14, 2016, John C wrote:

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On May 14, 2016, Kaliix wrote:
The trick looks amazing but I'm not sure about the presentation. It's not that it's bad or anything, I just to don't get the point. Is it a coincidence that the card is at the number? It's not really a prediction. Did the magician cause the card to be a that location? Did the spectator somehow have magical powers to know where the card is? Maybe I'm missing something. Help me out here.

All of the above. You are giving the spec the chance to be the special mind. Let the audience be the judge.

On May 14, 2016, Kaliix wrote:
See and I think that it muddles the effect that way. The effect can't be everything or it leads to confusion. In watching Brett's routine, I was very impressed with the method but confused as to what the effect actually was. Didn't Vernon say confusion is not magic (or something like that)?

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On May 14, 2016, John C wrote:

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On May 14, 2016, Kaliix wrote:
The trick looks amazing but I'm not sure about the presentation. It's not that it's bad or anything, I just to don't get the point. Is it a coincidence that the card is at the number? It's not really a prediction. Did the magician cause the card to be a that location? Did the spectator somehow have magical powers to know where the card is? Maybe I'm missing something. Help me out here.

All of the above. You are giving the spec the chance to be the special mind. Let the audience be the judge.

On May 14, 2016, Jared wrote:
I intend to perform this with more of mentalism slant. More specifically, after the card has been selected, cards shuffled etc., I would slowly wave my hand over the spread cards like I'm getting some kind of impression. Then I would explain to the audience that I'm sensing the card's position within the spread. Turning to a nearby spectator you explain that you're going to project a specific number into their subconscious. "When I snap my fingers, please announce the number that immediately comes to your mind." Naturally, I haven't formally scripted the routine yet but you get the basic premise. If you've ever seen Richard Osterlind's brilliant "Hands Off" from his book "Six Shooter" then you understand how it would be framed.

On May 14, 2016, 1KJ wrote:


One comment/question: I am thinking that I am not going to mark my deck in any way. I think the "proving" can be done in a different way that doesn't require a marked deck. I know no one will notice the markings, I'm just thinking it isn't necessary. Anyone who has this probably knows what I'm talking about. Comments?

KJ

On May 14, 2016, On The Offbeat wrote:

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On May 14, 2016, 1KJ wrote:


One comment/question: I am thinking that I am not going to mark my deck in any way. I think the "proving" can be done in a different way that doesn't require a marked deck. I know no one will notice the markings, I'm just thinking it isn't necessary. Anyone who has this probably knows what I'm talking about. Comments?

KJ

Can't be sure how you are planning on "proving", so it's hard to say. But I do like Brent's methods. I don't think the markings are not completely necessary but more like a security blanket just to get confirmation at points throughout the routine. I will almost certainly use them but if others don't need them then more power to you. I think Brent's thoughts were that they just allow you more confidence to concentrate on the presentation so what's the downside if nobody is aware of them.
Also, if you shuffle the deck like Brent does then I really think it is helpful to have them because it's always possible a stray card could have slipped out of place during the shuffle. But of course it is up to each performer to weigh the advantages/disadvantages and decide for themselves.

On May 17, 2016, 1KJ wrote:

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On May 14, 2016, On The Offbeat wrote:

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On May 14, 2016, 1KJ wrote:


One comment/question: I am thinking that I am not going to mark my deck in any way. I think the "proving" can be done in a different way that doesn't require a marked deck. I know no one will notice the markings, I'm just thinking it isn't necessary. Anyone who has this probably knows what I'm talking about. Comments?

KJ

Can't be sure how you are planning on "proving", so it's hard to say. But I do like Brent's methods. I don't think the markings are not completely necessary but more like a security blanket just to get confirmation at points throughout the routine. I will almost certainly use them but if others don't need them then more power to you. I think Brent's thoughts were that they just allow you more confidence to concentrate on the presentation so what's the downside if nobody is aware of them.
Also, if you shuffle the deck like Brent does then I really think it is helpful to have them because it's always possible a stray card could have slipped out of place during the shuffle. But of course it is up to each performer to weigh the advantages/disadvantages and decide for themselves.

To be more specific, I would fan the deck to show they could have selected any card at any number.

KJ

On May 14, 2016, John C wrote:

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On May 14, 2016, Magic Patrick wrote:
This is awesome. I love it. I have shown it to 6 people and each time they were stunned. I am going to get a new one as I am going to wear this one out soon.

Patrick

Can you really wear it out?