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Ben Daggers
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Hi all,

I would like to come up with a one cup routine using a teacup, teabag, and teaspoon as the cup, balls and wand. (I'm English, so it fits well in the context of my show). The final loads will be a LOT of teabags (I can probably stuff about a dozen into a cup) and then a realistic-looking muffin.

I'm just starting off designing the routine and would love some suggestions as to sleights, resources, videos etc. The two things that are making it a bit tricky so far are:

1) Up till now I have only ever focused on card magic, so lots of the sleights will be new to me

2) Teabags seem to be a bit more difficult to handle than regular balls in many respects.

Any tips or advice are most welcome!

Ben
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On May 21, 2016, Ben Daggers wrote:
Hi all,

I would like to come up with a one cup routine using a teacup, teabag, and teaspoon as the cup, balls and wand. (I'm English, so it fits well in the context of my show). The final loads will be a LOT of teabags (I can probably stuff about a dozen into a cup) and then a realistic-looking muffin.

I'm just starting off designing the routine and would love some suggestions as to sleights, resources, videos etc. The two things that are making it a bit tricky so far are:

1) Up till now I have only ever focused on card magic, so lots of the sleights will be new to me

2) Teabags seem to be a bit more difficult to handle than regular balls in many respects.

Any tips or advice are most welcome!

Ben


I would use sugarcubes for the balls, and lots of tea bags for the final load. Dai Vernon said the final load should always be different from the main ball you use, and it is the shock difference between them that makes the impact of the final load, rather than the actual size of the final load.

For the sugarcubes, you can get fake ones:

http://en.dawanda.com/product/94294331-f......5-pieces

They would be easy to gimmick.
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I've seen sugar cubes used in impromptu C&B routine. Need very little handling adjustment versus balls and totally fits the theme.

Use thread to hold wad of tea bags together and break the thread as you load.

References - Suzanne The Magician has a wonderful C&B routine with a story. She doesn't teach the routine, but does talk about creating the story and audience management. Would be a good resource for for your routine.

Two references for C&B that were very helpful for me were Michael Ammar 2 volume set, The Complete Cubs and Balls (either 2 DVD set or book). And Al Schneider's Cups and Balls DVD. I also highly recommend The Al Schneider Technique DVD, where he teaches his vanish.

Sounds like the routine you are working on woukd be great for a competition bit. Competition is a great way to put together a personal routine and give you a deadline to perfect it.

Always nice to see someone put creativity into their magic!
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I would start off learning the core skills e.g. Ammar, Daryl, Schneider etc.

Martin Sanderson has a direct chop cup routine on his corporate close up DVD:
http://www.rsvpmagic.com/corporate-close-up/
Improv. version with a cup and a creamer
http://www.propdog.co.uk/business-martin......limit=25

Mark James teaches a solid routine on his DVD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwghf0qnOwo

Creative approach to C&B - Yann Frisch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0QVtTW6sM0

John Carney 'Fruit cup' - Carneycopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Xctoqw1Ls

Check out Scott Alexander's Penguin lectures for some tips on liquid loads.

If you need special props or items gaffed, give Propdog a call.

Good luck
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You thinking the new style teabags with translucent mesh and string/tag wrapped around? Almost comfortable to handle - easy to chop - fragile though.
Agreed you'll have an easier time after playing with a chop cup and crochet ball for a while. That so the method/sleight work can move to background when you design your performance piece. Cleanup and reset are always considerations.
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Hey all, thanks for the suggestions!

I will take the advice of Tally and try to get hold of some fake sugar cubes, finishing with the teabag load. One of the other magicians at my bar suggested a bold idea for the teabags - instead of loading to the cup I can switch an empty cup for a full one after revealing the muffin. He demonstrated it for me and it looked very convincing.

My next challenge is to think of a patter that brings it all together - I'd rather do a full story than a "where is it" presentation if I can.

Thanks to Puggo and 55Hudson also for the references. Any other advice welcome too!
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I like the muffin idea, but here's another one: how about a (small) tin that's used for holding tea leaves?
Something like
http://g01.s.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1.PjJHXXXX......XXXO.jpg
or
http://static.webshopapp.com/shops/01054......kuro.jpg

I'm of the opinion that the best patter comes from something personal or that you have interest in, but maybe some story about how no one ever makes your tea the way you like it? Too much sugar, or too little, or it has too many leaves in it (final load)? Grossly simplified, of course.

Or make it a story about no matter how many ways people make your tea, you can make it perfect by removing sugar, or leaves. And then end with a full cup of tea, from which you could take a satisfied sip!
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I have an eBook called "Cup of T" that includes several effects that could be done with tea bags, but all use a T-Cup --
and some other effects developed over the years. Drop be a note at funsway@eversway.com to discuss.
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Wasn't there a routine marketed using this where he produced a golf tee and then a golf ball as his final load.
The connection being the golf "tee" and the "tea" itself.
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Just some random thoughts...

You might think about adding a tea pot into the mix...another place for things to fly to....it could start empty and end up filled....it could hold tea to pour into the cup, which contains SP and then vanished.

If you do end up using tea bags as a ball replacement (insert joke here) using the saucer gives you a place for the tea bag to fly (i.e., after bag has flown to cup, you repeat it but instead of being in the cup, the bag is under the saucer).

Also, tea sandwiches, or a pastry or sweet (like truffles) might make a nice load, and ties int the routine as the final phase of a nice tea.
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On May 24, 2016, DaveGripenwaldt wrote:
If you do end up using tea bags as a ball replacement (insert joke here) using the saucer gives you a place for the tea bag to fly (i.e., after bag has flown to cup, you repeat it but instead of being in the cup, the bag is under the saucer).

Or if you want to get really adventurous you could load it on top of the saucer sitting to the side a la Tommy Wonder.
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Paul Gertner in his book and I think lecture notes has a chop cup routine with tea.
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Tea balls might also make for a good final load.

For those unfamiliar, a tea ball is a wire mesh ball that is hinged so that tea leaves can be placed in the ball to be steeped, rather than using a bag. These are available at many kitchen supply stores and shops that sell English tea (in the states). Many wonderful items to be found at such shops!
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