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MagicalEducator Veteran user 369 Posts |
Quote: On Jun 6, 2016, Howie Diddot wrote:
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Joe Atmore Elite user Joe Atmore 419 Posts |
And to be clear, I was referring to studying Dunninger's work and his influence on the public and mentalism and magic communities and the history thereof. Dunninger's work I certainly feel I am very well qualified to discuss.
Just like if Fogel's work was used to defend a position that was not correct, you might have Marks and Woodward set the record straight. Or Domingo for Nelson, etc.
Best Thoughts,
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MagicalEducator Veteran user 369 Posts |
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On Jun 6, 2016, Joe Atmore wrote: Thank you for sharing this Joe. I would love to hear more about why you think Dunninger did this. From the outside looking in it just seems so incongruent. jeff
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On Jun 6, 2016, mastermindreader wrote: Why do you insult someone who simply doesn't agree with you.....????? Seems childish to me.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Childish? From me? LOL !!!
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
Bob, I believe that would have been a good place for the dancing balloons....
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
I resisted, because THAT would have been childish.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Up next, balloons and mentalism...who is full of hot air and a blowhard?
I've asked to be banned
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Jim Callahan does balloons in his show ... So fun!!!!
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
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On Jun 7, 2016, Slim King wrote: Yeah I remember that. Where is Jim these days?
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billion New user 93 Posts |
Magic and mentalism are so commingled these days. I recently went to a 4 year old's birthday party, and the clown who started with juggling and magic tricks...even the clown started doing mentalism routines.
What kind of message does this spread? Even a clown can read minds. Billion |
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IMAGINACIAN Special user In Your Thots 558 Posts |
Well, here's my 2c. Yes, you CAN be a magician AND a mentalist. Very much like you can be a drummer and a lawyer. Only that you cannot and should not perform both at the same time. You cannot 'drum' in a court while arguing your case. Similarly, you should not perform magic and mentalism in the SAME show. You will screw up both. IMHO
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billion New user 93 Posts |
Good points!
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IMAGINACIAN Special user In Your Thots 558 Posts |
Thank you Billion. But you would not have expected that a question you asked on the Polarity thread (which I appreciate) will get asked to you yourself !
Did you plagiarize or not? Are you Lior Suchard or LIAR Suchard? YES or NO? And avoiding Bob may not be a good idea. (btw sorry for the pun Lior Suchard - the real one)
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
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On Jun 12, 2016, IMAGINACIAN wrote: I agree. I think what guys can't get straight is separating "can" from "should." There are many things one CAN do, the better question is SHOULD they? Most of the time the answer is no. |
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
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On Jun 12, 2016, billion wrote: I do admit stuff like the above bothers me. More so earlier but still. I remember reading about MOABT and how a clown was doing it. Making mentalism into a trick I think is a disaster. THat being said, consider this scenario. You are at a paid gig (nothing against novice just stay with me). There are little ones at this gig. You perform a few mentalism walkaround sets and the client or a parent walks over to you and ask if you can do some "tricks" for the little ones. Before you say anything, this is after a plethora of comments regarding your special gift, ie; how long have you had this gift etc. Do you break out a TT if you have one in your go to bag? Do you do a little impromptu magic for the lad? Or do you stumble through some kiddie mentalism for the toddler while he stares into space having no clue what the heck you are doing? Decomposing Discussion
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bdekolta Inner circle Texas 1636 Posts |
There are certain mentalism routines that play quite well for children or adults. So you do those. They won't be as strong as some others but they do work. The key is to let the kids have fun and let the adults see that you entertained them while still being who you are.
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
I just don't have any for age 4 and under though. Five maybe.....Two and under is really tough...
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Alexxander Elite user Frankfurt, Germany 423 Posts |
Why would you want to perform for children that young?!
If a parent would ask me to perform for their young kid, I would simply and politely decline and just talk to the kid.. |
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Because they are child perhaps. I want to please the client, ie, the parent. So you are saying there is no way you would ever perform a little magic for a young child? Well, we have to agree to disagree then.
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