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IanB
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So ... Is this the same methodology as the Marlo stop trick as predicted?
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Wasn't today the release day for this. Haven't heard anything from Alakazam yet.
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I sat down with Peter Nardi for an interview discussing the finer points of The Butterfly Effect.

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Received mine today, and just finished my first viewing. Excellent, and imho, more than worth the cost as a 'single trick dvd.' By the way, regarding the issue of the originality of the effect vis a vis Marlo, etc., Peter credits on the dvd influences dating back to the 1950's. Weird, though, about Dave Forrest's identically named effect - which, while it seems to use the same method, is 'played out' in (again, imho) a decidedly less entertaining way...
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I thought Dave's version was terrible, how it was presented. The patter was cringe worthy. Kept repeating himself, again and again. The spec wasn't impressed at all. I won't be buying this though as it's far too similar to Forrest's version.
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I thought Dave's version was terrible, how it was presented. The patter was cringe worthy. Kept repeating himself, again and again. The spec wasn't impressed at all. I won't be buying this though as it's far too similar to Forrest's version.


Agree with you that Dave's version was pretty bad, but think you're missing out on a great (and SUPER easy to do) effect with this one. I generally do not like self-working tricks (see my earlier comment on Move Zero), but I really do love Peter's one here...
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Why is Daves bad? I'm curious becuse its based on a trick of mine that has always played great. Dave improved on my version. There are several principles in play, though, not just the one used in Peters trick.

Incidentally, I think Peters trick is very good,
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Mine arrived today and I am happy with the purchase.
Great little effect and simple to do.
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Nice effect. Probably not something I'll use very often but a great almost-impromptu effect that can hit people hard if someone hands you a deck and you need to do something powerful for a group. As always, Peter gives several variations including some to speed up the process.
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Why is Daves bad? I'm curious becuse its based on a trick of mine that has always played great. Dave improved on my version. There are several principles in play, though, not just the one used in Peters trick.

Incidentally, I think Peters trick is very good,


I can only say that my reaction was the same as that of the spec in his demo...i.e. I was underwhelmed. Curious, though, why he also calls his 'The Butterfly Effect', since there's no mention of that in his routine Smile
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Make sure you read the information on the business card for what I think is a better setup.
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Why is Daves bad? I'm curious becuse its based on a trick of mine that has always played great. Dave improved on my version. There are several principles in play, though, not just the one used in Peters trick.

Incidentally, I think Peters trick is very good,


I can only say that my reaction was the same as that of the spec in his demo...i.e. I was underwhelmed. Curious, though, why he also calls his 'The Butterfly Effect', since there's no mention of that in his routine Smile


There are many trick names that aren't mentioned in the patter to tricks themselves. Daves trick came out several years ago.
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It's not completely impromptu (somehow I thought it was before the purchase). But it's a fooler. I love the effect. Don't think I'll add this to my set because of what's required to get into it. It's a lovely piece I'd do as a stand alone for sure.
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There are many trick names that aren't mentioned in the patter to tricks themselves. Daves trick came out several years ago.


True what you're saying, and anything is possible...but it does seem odd that David's trick has the same name as does Peter's (which, by the way, he's been performing for about a decade). Weird coincidence? I guess so...
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There are many trick names that aren't mentioned in the patter to tricks themselves. Daves trick came out several years ago.


True what you're saying, and anything is possible...but it does seem odd that David's trick has the same name as does Peter's (which, by the way, he's been performing for about a decade). Weird coincidence? I guess so...


I wouldn't read too much into it. It's quite a commonly used name really. I believe there was an effect by Bruno Copin called The Butterfly Effect as well (though that effect is completely different to this in terms of method and 'effect').
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There are many trick names that aren't mentioned in the patter to tricks themselves. Daves trick came out several years ago.


True what you're saying, and anything is possible...but it does seem odd that David's trick has the same name as does Peter's (which, by the way, he's been performing for about a decade). Weird coincidence? I guess so...



Uh, no. Dave's trick came out a long time ago. Dave did not steal Peter's trick or name. Peter's trick hadn't been released and quite possibly had no name. I don't know one magician who performs an effect and says, "This is called _________".

The main inspiration for Dave's effect was my trick, 18, which was in turn inspired by an Alex Elmsley effect (the name of which escapes me at the moment).

Peter's trick is quite good. He probably didn't know that Dave had already published a trick called Butterfly Effect.
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I picked this up on Friday and I ❤️ It! Just watched the bonus routine on Alakazm as well and that's double cool. Won of the best self workers I've seen.
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I believe there was an effect by Bruno Copin called The Butterfly Effect as well (though that effect is completely different to this in terms of method and 'effect').


There is another effect by the same name 'Butterfly Effect' by Andrew Mayne. Only the name is similar but it is completely different in terms of method and the effect.

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BTW one shall notice that there has been a spate of new releases which are copies of previously released methods with a slight twist here-N-there. Lets take one example of a company which IMO is ready to do anything they can get away with to make a quick buck, checkout - - - Polarity, The Butterfly Effect, X-Ray etc. Unless we magicians stand up against such actions, we will get much more in the future. Money is all that matters, they care less about our age-old ethics in Magic.

However we have one more age-old tradition in magic which falls under acceptable ethics - We magicians are allowed to cheat our own clan by false/cleverly worded advertising.

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BTW one shall notice that there has been a spate of new releases which are copies of previously released methods with a slight twist here-N-there. Lets take one example of a company which IMO is ready to do anything they can get away with to make a quick buck, checkout - - - Polarity, The Butterfly Effect, X-Ray etc. Unless we magicians stand up against such actions, we will get much more in the future. Money is all that matters, they care less about our age-old ethics in Magic.

However we have one more age-old tradition in magic which falls under acceptable ethics - We magicians are allowed to cheat our own clan by false/cleverly worded advertising.

Smile


All the three effects you described have been released from three different companies.
So not really sure what you are saying here.

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