|
|
Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3..7~8~9~10~11..17~18~19 [Next] | ||||||||||
JasonL2112 Regular user 169 Posts |
There was certainly nothing to break in this instance so I felt pretty safe.
I've now watched the download and I was setting everything up per what is recommended (with the exception of not having yet trimmed the gimmic which would have no impact other than visual. I agree a PK ring would likely work VERY well, maybe it's time to break down and order one, but that shouldn't have to be the case given this effect is supplied with the intended object. Don't get me wrong guys, I "can" make this happen, but it seems to depend on how I am holding the ball. Looser vs tighter grip, where it sits in my fist, etc... Sometimes I can barely tell, other times, not at all. I really want to give this a fair shot, but if I can't get it to work consistently and reliably in my own hand..... Seems like the ball isn't "powerful" enough of an object.
GLOMM
http://www.theglomm.com/ |
|||||||||
Daren Inner circle 2051 Posts |
I tried this on my wife and made her clench her fists so tight the knuckles turned white, this still detected the ball/ring takes some getting used to the right feel, but works every time
|
|||||||||
JasonL2112 Regular user 169 Posts |
Yes, to be clear, it worked better with a tighter fist. I also heard "make a tight fist" stated in the download, but I had to squeeze pretty darn tight.
Sorry, spectator, can you hold your fist tighter for me, I can't tell where it is with you holding it loosely. Can't make that one play. Quote: On Jun 13, 2016, Daren wrote:
GLOMM
http://www.theglomm.com/ |
|||||||||
Relick666 Special user 604 Posts |
Wary after reading so many comments.
It seems like it's not such an original approach, and not so "new" as stated on the ad: "X-Ray is the first Which Hand effect and Kurotsuke method to date, that gives you the ability, with rolled up sleeves and no electronics, to guess with 100% accuracy, where the hidden object is." Not sure if that statement is 100% accurate (I wouldn't think so), after all the approaches that have been released by Charles Gauci's. Also add a lot more of approaches like Prevaricator, Manoeda, Tequila Hustler, etc. Or the one released on MindSight which uses technology, but it's different from other tech approaches out there. By now, I'm definitely more interested in reading Charles Gauci's book. Andreu. |
|||||||||
Daren Inner circle 2051 Posts |
Sorry just need to get them to hold ball tight in their hand that's all that needs to be said to spectator, this works a dream, I love it
|
|||||||||
Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 13, 2016, IMAGINACIAN wrote: Wasn't there a similar discussion and doubtfulness years ago about his (or, as others considered: Peter Eggink's) haunted deck effect?
The Mati Envelope
A brandnew peek device for the working mentalist! Chance's Token Tarot cards in a scenic piece of mystery..... |
|||||||||
Weddingmagician New user 81 Posts |
I bought one of these http://www.warpedmagic.co.uk/products/su......ed-magic super strong magnetic coins and it seems to work a lot better with X-Ray than the ball. Also makes more sense imho to borrow a coin or use your own rather than a black ball.
|
|||||||||
MarcLavelle Loyal user Birmingham 260 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 8, 2016, PRINCE wrote: I don't use a TT very often, and have not done regularly for years, When looking through the trailer footage and edit, we chose to leave the gimmick in. Why? because we knew people would have a moan if we concealed it or cut it out, and we wanted to give an honest trailer! I guess you can't win either way! Luckily, spectators don't tend to pause and rematch live performances too much! Even though I felt very comfortable using the gimmick, I am sure those with more experience in that type will feel right at home with it! Quote:
On Jun 13, 2016, Gaijin wrote: I think that is a bit of an unfair move: if you show laymen (especially friends) a trailer of a PRODUCT, you are essentially telling them 'there is a method to this that anyone can do' If you were to show them a performance, I think You would get different results! |
|||||||||
Gaijin Regular user 175 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 13, 2016, Daren wrote: You mean if they saw the flash of the gimmick? No. Didn't guess the actual method either. But the fact that they could come up with something close is a concern for me because even if they are wrong, it means that they can convince themselves that they are right and thus are not impressed. I think that a good trick should let no possible clue. |
|||||||||
Gaijin Regular user 175 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 14, 2016, MarcLavelle wrote: Well, they know me and none of them are convinced that I have real powers even when they are genuinely impressed with a trick. When I impress them, they know that there is a secret method but their faces clearly tell something like "OK there is something going on but you fooled me, well done." I feel afraid that they won't get this feeling from this one, I suspect that they will be intrigued but not impressed from their reactions. It is for sure true that a live performance would do better than a video indeed but I am still too hesitant, I can't see this replacing something from my current set and I totally respect anyone who would think otherwise. |
|||||||||
WolfgangStiller Loyal user Colorado Springs, Colorado 218 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 13, 2016, Gaijin wrote: That may just be a reaction to the guess which hand plot. Not very impressive by itself. Why should I care that you can guess the hand? I just received this and must say this is a very good method to accomplish that plot but I think this can be made much more entertaining by giving the spectator a reason to care about what is happening. One approach for this is to make the spectator the psychic and match your own hands or a target card. Much stronger reactions any time we make the effect about the spectator. So many effects can be recast this way. |
|||||||||
JasonL2112 Regular user 169 Posts |
Agreed, and I fully plan on coming up with the right routine to give this one a fair shot. Getting the spectator invested in the routine makes all the difference.
I also think it makes sense to tie it in to Tequila Hustler. Starting with the right back-story / setup (lie detector?) perform TH, and, now, I think I know enough about you ("spec") to guess properly each time without asking ANY questions. Lets give it a shot...
GLOMM
http://www.theglomm.com/ |
|||||||||
seamagu Special user 885 Posts |
The kurotsuke (I think that's the right word) routine with this is excellent. I also have a nifty bank night routine with 2 or more envelopes using the method. I'm really happy I bought it.
Best, Séa
I love post its
|
|||||||||
MarcLavelle Loyal user Birmingham 260 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 14, 2016, Gaijin wrote: The which hand plot on its own will never be a strong effect, as it is literally a 50/50. Using the standard which hand to move on to other routines, like building it to a which hand with 10 people (one item) amplifies the effect (whichever method you prefer to use!) I currently use a gimmickless version, an electronic version, and this version for which hand and similar 'location' effects, but I am a fan of mixing methods! If you already perform this, and are happy with how everything goes, then of course don't buy it for the sake of buying it! As a standalone effect, I am fond of the bag routine though with paper balls and a borrowed note. |
|||||||||
seamagu Special user 885 Posts |
Interest points Marc. However, I feel the 50 50 plot CAN be a strong routine. When I'm performing it I always give them a chance to change their mind and I also tell them to switch hands a few times. Before I reveal the hand I always get them to confirm that it really felt like they had a free choice and that they were in control. Then I reveal which hand. This confirmation kind of raises them up to a height mentally and then you just drop them down with the reveal. Of course if you repeat this a few times getting confirmation each time that they were in control the effect just builds and builds. After about 3 times I close out the effect mentioning that I could do this all night.
Best, Séa
I love post its
|
|||||||||
Relick666 Special user 604 Posts |
Well, there are billions of presentations out there.
I think this thread should be used to discuss the product quality / originality itself and not the individual presentations we all have. If you want to know some more useful presentational ploys, maybe read MindSight? http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S18684 The usual ploy with which hand is the classical truthteller / liar plot, but I insist - there are billions of approaches out there. Best, Andreu. |
|||||||||
JoelDickinson Inner circle UK 1578 Posts |
I'm about to order mine from warped.
Online Magic Store :
themiraclestudio.co.uk |
|||||||||
Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 16, 2016, Relick666 wrote: I couldn't agree with you more. Best Steve
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
|
|||||||||
Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 3014 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 13, 2016, Steven Conner wrote: Wow, what an encouraging piece of advice for beginners.
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
|
|||||||||
seamagu Special user 885 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 16, 2016, Relick666 wrote: Haha Thanks Andreu, what product is that you are suggesting I take a look at? Seriously!
I love post its
|
|||||||||
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » X-Ray by Rasmus (133 Likes) | ||||||||||
Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3..7~8~9~10~11..17~18~19 [Next] |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.06 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |