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catweazle Special user 924 Posts 
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Yes its the effect for the spec, sort of, but we are not the spec, best two demo's this year are from Nick Einhorn and Rhoddy Mcgee, watch them, there is a difference that you are not getting, but then again you worked for sansminds...nuff said.
like I said I like it, but your attitude is worse than the magic Café at its worst tbh. good luck. |
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1695 Posts
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I do like this quite a lot , and will be using it in my ambitious card routine , it's nice that it can be done without gimmicks . I'm a busy performer and I could get this down in just a short time , so no issue about difficulty . But Nicholas ... IMO public forums may not be the best place for you to be in ...
" Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " ...
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Pixelated Veteran user 332 Posts
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I bought the rising and I'm also a little bit disappointed that the trailer wasnt clear that it was the spectators view rather than live footage.
Here's an idea, if computer game adverts say 'not in game footage' then why don't magic trailers state 'what the spectator sees' or 'actual footage'. This would clear everything up and not leave any room for anyone to complain. |
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jackaboy Veteran user universities aren't interested in my 302 Posts
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On Jun 13, 2016, Pixelated wrote: Heres an idea And a *** good one at that |
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Slackerking Special user 613 Posts
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On Jun 13, 2016, Pixelated wrote: What a fantastic idea. So much better to look for solutions than constantly complaining. |
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barts185 Inner circle Can you believe I've been wrong on 1355 Posts
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On Jun 13, 2016, Pixelated wrote: Just like that's a general idea, this response is a general response and is not meant to indicate anything about any specific creator: Great idea. Of course it won't be done because that would hurt sales. Everyone likes to !@#$% and moan, but (I'm guessing) so few actually send it back or demand a refund that it's worth it to continue doing it. To make matters worse, they actually buy from the company AGAIN! If it wasn't worth it, if people stopped buying things from companies that continually do things like edit trailers to present unrealistic views of what actually happens, things would change. It obviously is worth it, so what incentive do the companies have? They are in business to make money. Until people take steps so that they stop making money, it won't change. Imagined conversation: Company Exec 1: Oh, look, 0.01% of people are complaining. Company Exec 2: Are enough people sending it back or demanding refunds that it matters? Company Exec 1: Of course not! They're just throwing it in their magic junk drawer along with all the other things they've bought from us. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Company Exec 2: The next highly edited trailer will be ready to go tomorrow. I wonder how many suckers will fall for it - AGAIN! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts
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I am not disappointed with the product and I do plan on using it.
However, one reason why people are disappointed with the trailer is that as a long time magician, I just want to know what I can do with the product. If a trailer is presented showing something that I am not going to be performing, that is like ordering a steak on a menu, but getting chicken instead. It might be good chicken, but it doesn't look like the picture on the menu. The trailer could have just shown the card after it is placed in the deck. KJ |
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TheSecretFire Special user 597 Posts
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Well that escalated quickly.
There are a couple items I'd like to formally address, mostly because I was about to purchase this and decided to come here before hitting 'buy'. First off, a note on intelligence: It's a bad idea to ever use your IQ as a way of putting someone down. That will likely come back to haunt you, good luck. Second, from a business perspective, Nicholas Lawrence, you probably just lost potential customers by saying "I don't care." That has "I want your money, not your loyalty or satisfaction" written all over it. I had a customer who couldn't do a couple moves in one of my routines, due to a bad finger joint, so I figured out an alternative method for him so he could still do the effect. As creators, we don't have a responsibility or obligation to make sure everyone loves our work, but sometimes it's nice to go out of our way in order to ensure that our fans can perform and enjoy our art, even if they had problems with it. With regards to the 'what the audience sees' trailers, the audience 'sees' nearly everything we do, they just don't recognize it for what it is. For example, the spec sees me do a tilt, and assumes where the card is going. To make a trailer where I openly put the card into the middle of the deck implies that that is what actually happens in performance. This is wrong. If the effect requires a tilt, then put a tilt in the trailer, or just leave the section out. But don't make something up. And as for The Rising, the resulting effect looks pretty good, but now that I know you can't actually put the card 2nd from the bottom and have it rise, I think I'll pass. That was the selling point for me, but since that can't be done, I'll stick with a different rising card. Let's keep it classy and civilized. |
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blurrylines Regular user 185 Posts
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On Jun 17, 2016, TheSecretFire wrote: This is wisdom from thesecretfire. The lack of putting the card second from the bottom was not a deal breaker for me, however his abysmal attitude is a deal breaker. Although, I'm sure there are a lot of people, who don't post, but will skip the product once they see how he treats people. There are other threads where I've seen creators get absolutely pummeled, but remain positive and not completely fly off the handle. |
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