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I just watched a (2000) movie 'The Gift'.
The Psychic used ESP cards laid out in spreads for readings.
She, did not use Tarot.

My question ... Do any of the members here use ESP cards for readings ?

Thanks,
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Personally, I've never understood the use of Zener cards for readings. They were not devised for divination purposes.
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Personally, I don't, but I did come up with a method where I assigned a separate meaning to each combination of three cards (no matter what order they appeared in). You would interpret each row and then each column.

However, if you really wanted to use Zener cards for readings, I would recommend getting a deck that had each symbol represented in one of five different colors, making 25 different cards, which would be sufficient for an oracle (and would be fairly easy to memorize the assigned meanings of). You could correspond each symbol to its numerological equivalent, and each color to an elemental meaning.

In the movie, it is clear that the main character simply uses the cards as a prop, and instead performs straight cold-reading (with occasional true psychic insight).
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On Jun 29, 2016, Ben Blau wrote:
Personally, I've never understood the use of Zener cards for readings. They were not devised for divination purposes.


Tarot neither according some theories Smile , still is one of the most popular oracles.
At the end anything can be interpreted as reading tool. I have done readings using ESP symbols and the work of Webster, Knepper and Dyment are good sources of information and inspiration.


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On Jun 29, 2016, Godzilla wrote:
I just watched a (2000) movie 'The Gift'.
The Psychic used ESP cards laid out in spreads for readings.
She, did not use Tarot.

My question ... Do any of the members here use ESP cards for readings ?

Thanks,
Gary


You might be interested in this thread about using ESP cards for readings. Apparently the ESP symbols have actual cross cultural similar meanings that can be interpreted as "states of mind". So giving readings based on these symbol choices is triggered by the mental state of the sitter based on different reading topics. Doug Dyment wrote a book on this topic (Zenomancy) and the thread references an anthropologist that wrote a book on the cross cultural meanings of ESP cards.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=15
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On Jun 29, 2016, Ben Blau wrote:
Personally, I've never understood the use of Zener cards for readings. They were not devised for divination purposes.


Tarot neither according some theories Smile , still is one of the most popular oracles.
At the end anything can be interpreted as reading tool. I have done readings using ESP symbols and the work of Webster, Knepper and Dyment are good sources of information and inspiration.


Best



A short list of things not devised for readings...

Numbers
Chicken bones
Tea leaves
Your birthday
Planetary alignment
The palm of your hand

Once you understand readings, you will understand how anything may be used.
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I have used them. The corporate market is pretty sensitive about tarot.

In my interpretation:

* The Circle represents family/harmony
* The Plus Sign represents ambition/drive
* The Wavy Lines represent travel/adventure
* The Square represents business/accomplishment
* The Star represents creativity/imagination

I only ever use the ParaLabs cards. They are m***** in an ingenious method that they can be seen in any light. They can be detected with a pendulum...the subject can choose one face up or face down...they can be used as a Past/Present/Future spread...they can be !@#$** on the volunteer. There are endless possibilities.

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I've never used them for readings, for the scientific side of them jars with the context of a reading (for me)...
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I've never used them for readings, for the scientific side of them jars with the context of a reading (for me)...


Exactly my reaction as well. And I can understand how others might feel differently and use them effectively.
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The reason I am intrigued by esp readings is that they are in the family of numerology and cartomancy. So once you learn about numbers you can do entertaining readings with esp cards regular cards or number cards. So by learning about numbers you can apply it to many various props.

Then by adding colors to the esp cards (playing cards already have colors) you have even more to work with.

I might suggest you begin with Alan Strydom's nice little tome on An Intuitive method for readings with Zener ESP cards.

You could refer to it as the Trinity Reading System. Smile

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Nah...i'll leave it thanks...doesn't work for me... Smile
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The Zenner cards are best for ESP testing--maybe personality testing, but shapes in general might be good be good for personality reading or readings in general.


Circles are eternity, spirit, art, emotion, relationships ?
Triangles are mind, reason, science, logic, ideals ???
Squares are physical, body, balance, work, real world ????
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Thanks, for replies Gents ! Smile

I, was curious to see how many here use the ESP cards for readings...

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I'm glad we are not all the same.


Me too ! Smile

Hey, John you mentioned colors. I use the color concept with A-Z. Smile
I, do not claim to be a reader! lol
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As others have said, the ESP symbols were designed for scientific testing and they were deliberately chosen to be emotionally neutral. It doesn't make much sense to me to use them for readings.

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On Jun 29, 2016, Ben Blau wrote:
Personally, I've never understood the use of Zener cards for readings. They were not devised for divination purposes.


Tarot neither according some theories Smile , still is one of the most popular oracles.
At the end anything can be interpreted as reading tool. I have done readings using ESP symbols and the work of Webster, Knepper and Dyment are good sources of information and inspiration.


Best


Agree with Pablo on this. It doesn't matter what a set of cards were designed for, it matters that you can use the symbolism in a meaningful way. The shapes of Zener cards certainly lend themselves to some very direct symbolism:

Circle: Unity, completeness, resolution, wheel of existence, etc.
Cross: Decisions, conflict, polarity, etc.
Wavy Lines: Energy, inspiration, movement, change. Etc.
Square: Rigidity, order, logic, etc.
Star: Success, achievement, good fortune, etc.

And I came up with these as I typed!
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Each to their own...and yes, you can read just about anything...doesnt mean you should though Smile

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