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Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Hello how are you?
i´m from Brazil. i´m 33 years old and I started this year to doing magic tricks. I started beacuse my two sons, but now i´m doing some tricks for my family and my coworkers. I start learning in youtube, but I tough if I can view the tricks in youtube, maybe they view too. So I start to read a lot of posts in this forum and I'm reading a lot of old book of magic and mentalism. So I need help and two questions: I started the right way to learn magic? I like magic for child, card tricks and mentalism. Can I be a magician / mentalist or I cant use this two kind of things? Thanks and sorry for my bad english. |
SvenSigma Regular user Germany 151 Posts |
You definitely can learn magic at your age. The most important questions are in my opionion:
1. Can you reserve enough time for practicing? You will know two years from now at the latest. 2. Do you get support from your environment or do people think you're crazy? Both are OK but need different strategies. 3. Can you overcome half a lifetime of conditioning? As an adult it is much more difficult to ignore your assumption of what others see.
It takes a baby in the belly six months to learn how to put the thumb in the mouth.
The rest of life is essentially the same problem. |
SvenSigma Regular user Germany 151 Posts |
And from my own experience: mentalism for/with kids is difficult. They may find it creepy or not understand it, if too young. Basically, because their perception is different.
(Sorry for split post, got confused by my tablet's behavior when editing.)
It takes a baby in the belly six months to learn how to put the thumb in the mouth.
The rest of life is essentially the same problem. |
Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Thanks for the reply SevenSigma.
1. Can you reserve enough time for practicing? You will know two years from now at the latest. Yes, I practice at least one hour a day. 2. Do you get support from your environment or do people think you're crazy? Both are OK but need different strategies. Yes I get support from the most part of my enviroment. But some people says: " idont like magic ", and I stoped to doing magic to this people. But the most part likes. 3. Can you overcome half a lifetime of conditioning? As an adult it is much more difficult to ignore your assumption of what others see. Yes, my greatest problem is to know if a trick is good or not. Some tricks for me is too simple, but for the audience is unbeliveble. Thanks for the advice and I Think I will do tricks of mentalism just for adult. And I have some apartus for work with kids like silks, prodution box, sponge ball and change bags. I think the magicians community is the community that most help the newcomers. Thanks. |
Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1167 Posts |
When you do magic for Kids -make sure its STORY magic- not JUST tricks- have a few effects - go to 'search' put in 'russo' user name - many effects (and personeal comments if you want to wade through them L-O-L) a 79 year old (70 year Pro) willing to share. Ralph(russo)Rousseau
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CalebRose New user 83 Posts |
Some magicians here may differ but Youtube is a great place to start with your magic. There you can learn the basic sleights and some easy to do tricks. As you progress I would look into some magicians that interest you and take your time investing into some off youtube stuff. A great place to start that is pretty affordable is Jay Sankey's Inside Deception, an online community of magicians headed by sankey. He puts up tutorials for beginners, intermediate and advanced practitioners. I would highly recommend it if you are interested in doing magic professionally since he offers great advice for doing so.
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Blaine G New user 87 Posts |
I have too pieces of advice for you.
1) you wrote "and I'm reading a lot of old book(s)" SLOW DOWN - don't read lots of books. Take one book, and learn it well. Pick out a few tricks and learn how to perform them like an expert. Even a simple trick is a miracle to one who has never seen it. 2) you also wrote: "Can you reserve enough time...you will know two years from now at the latest...do people think you're crazy...Can you overcome half a lifetime of conditioning...my greatest problem is to know if a trick is good or not. Some tricks for me is too simple, but for the audience is unbeliveble. I think you are missing the most important point of becoming an amateur magician. It is something too many people forget about. Stop worrying and have fun. If someone doesn't like magic then don't show them your new found skills. Remember, enjoy your magic and have fun. BTW, we are all crazy. The only question is how crazy are we? Also, your English is a lot better than my Portugese! |
Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Russo, I read some of your posts. I liked . Thanks.
Calebrose, thanks for the advice. I saw some sankey books, And I Think I 'll but And the future. Blaine, thanks for the advice, I read an old book that have the Magician code, And I read it And I m doing that way. I Never revela my tricks, I do magic tricks for entertain the people , not for showinoff And And I don't Think that I'm beterraba Think others. Thanks. |
Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Sorri I will buy sankey books in the future.
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Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Sorry, beter that others. My tablet is configured to portuguese
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SvenSigma Regular user Germany 151 Posts |
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On Jul 28, 2016, Blaine G wrote: Yes! Nearly as dangerous as too many gimmicks. Took me about ten books to realize it and find my preferred two beginner's books: "The Amateur Magician's Handbook" by Henry Hay And "The Royal Road to Card Magic" by Hugard an Braue
It takes a baby in the belly six months to learn how to put the thumb in the mouth.
The rest of life is essentially the same problem. |
Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1167 Posts |
To keep up with the cost of living(now retired and age79) I work p/t time at a Library(15 years now plus doing Shows when I can) - in the childrens section (J) there are a lot of Magic How to Books- easy - fun - also I went to the Library Catalog (we have over 8 libraries in our county )for adult and children, found 100's of books - even specialty . like Christmas Magic-Birthday Magic-Easter Magic-Etc - a lot of easy effects-& ideas-- Try it -- Ralph(russo)Rousseau
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Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Thanks for Help me.
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Foleylantz New user 10 Posts |
Hey. I just started out myself 3 months ago, I am 29 years old and are going to focus on cards mostly.
Now, being a novice myself, my "tip" might not be as valuable. But I just wanted to say that I so far have found it much more giving to focus on stuff like: - Grips, how a deck of Cards feels in Your hands. - Techniques, forces ect. - All around card Control. Instead of focusing on spesific tricks. Basically getting the "Tools" right before the "Product". I hope you see progress in Your endeauvors and fullfill Your goals |
SamChak Elite user 478 Posts |
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On Jul 26, 2016, Kleberdexter wrote: Most kids love coin vanish and production because they are simple to follow and visually engaging. So, be sure to practice the Retention Vanish. Check out the following performances by Kainoa Harbottle, Zee J. Yan, and Li Si-wei. |
Doug Trouten Elite user Minnesota 471 Posts |
Anand Khalsa posted some solid advice in response to a similar question a year ago. Here’s a link:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......92816#13 And here's the post: For beginners: In no particular order: 1 - Pick up a book on theory and read it cover to cover (Strong Magic, Maximum Entertainment, Fitzkee Trilogy, The Five Points, etc.) 2 - Pick up a course/encyclopedic book or series (Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic, Tarbell, Card College, Now You See It, etc.) 3 - Pick up a book on the history of magic (Hiding the Elephant, other Jim Steinmeyer books, The Illustrated History of Magic, etc.) 4 - Pick up some essential classics (Expert at the Card Table, Modern Coin Magic, Royal Road, etc.) 5 - Don't worry about being original at first (see Pop Haydn's essay on this: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=117) 6 - Join a local SAM or IBM assembly/ring as soon as you can. 5 - Learn the basics of acting and public speaking. 6 - Think early on about what style you want to pursue, and what type of audience you want to perform for.
It's still magic even if you know how it's done.
Terry Pratchett |
Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Thanks for all the advice.
I ll take a look at tese books. |
danaruns Special user The City of Angels 808 Posts |
Kleberdexter, your English is fine. Much better than my Portugese.
All of this advice is great. I want to add just one more tip: Perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, perform, and perform some more. The best learning is just getting out and performing magic, whether it's for one person or a thousand people. Too many people get hung up on learning moves, reading books, watching videos and sitting in their homes practicing. That's the best, fastest way to get good.
"Dana Douglas is the greatest magician alive. Plus, I'm drunk." -- Foster Brooks
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Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts |
Thanks Dana. All of you are Vera helpfull.
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