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On Jul 28, 2016, Ed_Millis wrote:
You have zero control over that.
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Ed beat me to the point.
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On Jul 28, 2016, Walkio wrote:
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On Jul 28, 2016, ringmaster wrote:
Nobody would pay to see a fake psychic.


All psychics are fake. People pay.

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There are those that do it for real....I've seen it.
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“You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war.” – William Randolph Hearst, January 25, 1898
You may know of this from history class..... We live in a world of Deception and trickery..... Magic/mentalism marketed as Entertainment is just that....Context is important as Astor pointed out.
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I think a subtle disclaimer feels right, anything else spoils the ambience.

But it's a matter for the individuals conscience and in some respects there'll always be some who'll believe, you only have to look at the whacky comments on Chris Angel YouTube clips to see that there are a lot of unintelligent people out there who believe what he does is real. I blame civilisation for taking away the
"Survival of the fittest" aspect of natural selection.

The best thing about a disclaimer is that it reminds the mentalist as well, which is good because a few of the less stable types start to believe their own hype after a while Smile
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On Jul 29, 2016, Ray Chelt wrote:
I think a subtle disclaimer feels right, anything else spoils the ambience.

But it's a matter for the individuals conscience and in some respects there'll always be some who'll believe, you only have to look at the whacky comments on Chris Angel YouTube clips to see that there are a lot of unintelligent people out there who believe what he does is real. I blame civilisation for taking away the
"Survival of the fittest" aspect of natural selection.

The best thing about a disclaimer is that it reminds the mentalist as well, which is good because a few of the less stable types start to believe their own hype after a while Smile


One doesn't have to be "unintelligent" to believe incorrectly.
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When phenomenon occur in life, individuals or communities may interpret the experience differently. For example, if someone reports feeling a strange pressure or presence in the night, not being able to move, a New York psychologist may identify "sleep paralysis," a California poet may attach it to an artistic vision, and a Louisiana priest may account it as "Witch Riding."

In these cases, the participants are writing the script. The same for deja vu, symbolic dreams, coincidence, and so on.

In a show or demonstration, the performer has much more influence, even in subtle ways or by not saying anything.
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"Morals are for men - not gods!"

should one try to be a god on stage....or having god like powers?
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The more interesting question is when people try to be gods off stage!
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Yes. I do not see this kinda stuff first hand, being that I am not in the professional side of magic, so I only know names like Uri Geller and John Edwards that theses guys never "drop the image" offstage. But then again I may tbe totally engrossed in the show while it is going on but when I leave I became a huge skeptic, not just of magical performance but ghost walks, movies, documentaries, even news shows.
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I inevitably get questions after a performance and I always try and walk a fine line. I like to say that I genuinely use my intuition but I also sometimes manipulate perception and communication in order to create a more theatrical experience.
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On Jul 28, 2016, Walkio wrote:
I personally think we should make it clear what we're doing is trickery.


On the stage - no, off the stage - yes, if asked.
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I am completely honest about how I do it without giving anything away. My explanation for how I can do what I do is:

Sometimes I see things (p**k)
Sometimes it's a feeling (th****r)
Sometimes I know what someone will think before they think it (f***e).

This allows me to give a guilt free honest explanation whilst still retaining the mystery.

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If you ever acknowledge that it's all "just a trick," then you're doing "mental magic."

If you never use a disclaimer, then you're doing "mentalism."
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Have you ever watched Jurassic Park? Was that real?


Of course! That is where I got my pet velociraptor.
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You spend days perfecting an effect. You script it. You polish it. You don't perform it until it's perfect. Then you turn around and say to your audience "It's all a trick." Why? Gee...God forbid they should walk away thinking they've seen something truly amazing. Who knows what horrific spiritual and psychological carnage that could cause? I mean...yikes!

Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

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