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phillsmiff
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I'm working on a new project, creating a whole bunch of new material and whilst I was doing it I've been thinking about questions I've been asked in the past about creating new material and repurposing old stuff, and I thought it might be fun or useful to share some of this whilst I'm literally working on something new that I'm really excited about and using these techniques daily. To be honest I wish someone had told me these things earlier - that's why I wanted to share it now.

There's a few different ideas but they aren't about the effect specifically, they are about creative problem solving, so rather than write them up I just recorded a quick semi-podcast to cover them, this one is about 5 minutes long. I will probably do three in total?
Anyway if you have five minutes and you are interested, check this link out:
http://miscellaneousmiracles.co.uk/listen-to-the-podcast/

(You have to put your email address in because I'm trying to crack down on bots on the site and keep track of interest, sorry)

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Thanks for sharing, very good stuff here. That's a great perspective to have on the creative process.

I listened to something recently that has some interesting parallels. I'd also recommend folks check it out after you listen to Phill's.
http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/07-hallelujah
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Thanks for putting that all together. It seems to point at the energies of Vernon and Marlo. Sadly, this age we are in has so much rush to publish and produce that the real gold is simply not even imagined by most in magic.
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I will admit that creating unique presentations and ideas is something I can often struggle with, so I look forward to listening to this podcast
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Listening to the Gladwell podcast now, very interesting stuff, thanks for the link.

Tom, you may be onto something there - both Vernon and Marlo developed material that went beyond I think what most people would do.

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Phill, my thoughts exactly. In somewhat different ways those two explored further or deeper than anyone else had.

Just had a chance to listen to Last Laugh's suggested podcast. An intriguing topic but I found the production to be at times painfully stilted.

I enjoyed the short look into the concept and would love to hear true master artists address this. On topic for the thread, DaVinci carried around and worked on The Mona Lisa for many years, and it is possible that he never felt it was finished. It hadn't dawned on me at the time, but many years ago I had the amazing luck to catch a Monet exhibit at the SF MOMA. It was a collection of studies and unfinished works, next to the famous final pieces. I went back and forth, forward and backward because it was the final hours of the final day no one paid attention to the kid wandering about for hours studying the development of these works and getting a possible glimpse into Monet's process. Seeing the studies and false starts now it's clear he was one who composed at length, exploring and experimenting along the way.

In my own song writing I have experienced both ends. Songs which come out of nowhere and are fully finished, composed in half an hour... and those which seem never done, always tweaking, always tinkering.
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Not totally relevant, but: In the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam there is a whole room dedicated to the artists development of a single specific painting, including loads of development sketches and various pieces that directly influenced him. It was fascinating to look around, but at the end of the display... They didn't have the finished piece. Not even a reproduction. It was an incredible omission and I was totally bamboozled.

It was interesting however to see how late in his life what most people think of as 'typical' Van Gogh work emerged, the starry sky etc. I thought most of the work in the museum was fairly unremarkable considering his peers and the state of art at the time. It wasn't until the last months of his life, when he was succumbing to madness, that his work bloomed into the fantastic vividity I associated with him. It was intriguing but terribly sad at the same time.

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Hopefully I don't become bat crazy before my presentations become worthwhile.

And Phill, thanks for posting this. I've been working on some projects and had seemingly exhausted their potential use. It's time to dig a little deeper.
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Van Gogh's early paintings were technically accomplished but not (IMO) all that remarkable. He was occasionally friends with Gaugin, Toulouse-Lautrec and Seurat, all of who had work on show in the museum to contextualise Van Gogh's own work, and personally I liked their stuff more than the work he was producing at the same time. There is something in his final works though that were very powerful, perhaps because the paintings gives us a peek into his struggling mind. But as Gaugin, TL and Seurat showed, it was possible to produce incredible work without losing yourself.

That aside, I've got some notes made for the next one that's going up, I think it's going to cover more about my Deep Geek Thinking nonsense, I guess I'll explain more in the recording, but thanks for all the feedback!

Phill
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Looking forward to the next episode.
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Hi team, I just uploaded the second part - if you have the address already from an email or whatever, go there, otherwise you can check it out here: http://miscellaneousmiracles.co.uk/listen-to-the-podcast/

This one is a bit longer, 10 minutes or so, and maybe a bit more specific than the first one. I hope it all makes sense and is useful in some way.

Phill
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OK, the final part just went up, again, use the address if you have it, otherwise please click through here to hear all of them on the same page:

http://miscellaneousmiracles.co.uk/listen-to-the-podcast/

Phill
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