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CurtWaltermire
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I have actually performed both of these type of routines in the same show with great success in the past, but I agree with Jan that it can be overkill and that culture and audience need to be greatly taken into consideration.

In a corporate after-dinner show, I believe in most cases it may become a bit of a drudgery for an audience, depending upon the presentation and the performer. In my experience, most corporate audiences that I perform for have very limited knowledge of me and even mentalism itself prior to the show. I purposely make my effects and routines very commercial and not too involved or complicated. Anything too deep and I seem to lose people. Not to mention the fact that any pre-show work if needed can be difficult depending upon the event.

In a private, in-home type of environment (or a psychic party or something similar) or public shows where people are buying tickets to see a mentalist/mind-reader, it seems to play much better. When I do a public show, I am a bit more relaxed and take more time to add readings and things to spice up the show, but in a limited fashion. The deeper things go sometimes in those shows, the better it seems!

In a run of one of my theater shows a couple of years ago in Wichita, I did an envelope-based Q & A that basically involved handing each theater-goer a coin envelope and a question card as they picked up their tickets and came in the door. They were to fill them out, seal them, and place them in the glass bowl at the front of the stage. Typical stuff. People actually loved it because they felt like they were very "involved" in the show right from the get-go, even if I didn't select their question to answer at the end of the show. During the middle of this very show, I performed 4DT as usual. While the two routines didn't segue into one another directly, it didn't seem to be overkill for the audience in any way. In fact, they spoke of the Q&A as the most amazing thing that I did, and I used nothing more than a simple one-a***d and a lot of c**d r*****g. That show played monthly for 12 months and was a lot of fun to do.

I suppose I said all of that to basically say that it CAN in fact work QUITE WELL under certain circumstances; however, it's not something that I do in ALL of my performances across the board. While I still perform 4DT quite regularly, even in corporate shows, the Q & A I now perform regularly doesn't use envelopes at all and requires no set-up.

The fact that you are asking for advice on such makes me think that you are already aware of this, or at the very least see the potential pitfalls.
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Very well said and written, Curtis Smile ! Jan
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Thank you, Jan. I'm logged in here very seldom, but I try to be as helpful as I can!
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On Sep 2, 2016, CurtWaltermire wrote:
I have actually performed both of these type of routines in the same show with great success in the past, but I agree with Jan that it can be overkill and that culture and audience need to be greatly taken into consideration.

In a corporate after-dinner show, I believe in most cases it may become a bit of a drudgery for an audience, depending upon the presentation and the performer. In my experience, most corporate audiences that I perform for have very limited knowledge of me and even mentalism itself prior to the show. I purposely make my effects and routines very commercial and not too involved or complicated. Anything too deep and I seem to lose people. Not to mention the fact that any pre-show work if needed can be difficult depending upon the event.

In a private, in-home type of environment (or a psychic party or something similar) or public shows where people are buying tickets to see a mentalist/mind-reader, it seems to play much better. When I do a public show, I am a bit more relaxed and take more time to add readings and things to spice up the show, but in a limited fashion. The deeper things go sometimes in those shows, the better it seems!

In a run of one of my theater shows a couple of years ago in Wichita, I did an envelope-based Q & A that basically involved handing each theater-goer a coin envelope and a question card as they picked up their tickets and came in the door. They were to fill them out, seal them, and place them in the glass bowl at the front of the stage. Typical stuff. People actually loved it because they felt like they were very "involved" in the show right from the get-go, even if I didn't select their question to answer at the end of the show. During the middle of this very show, I performed 4DT as usual. While the two routines didn't segue into one another directly, it didn't seem to be overkill for the audience in any way. In fact, they spoke of the Q&A as the most amazing thing that I did, and I used nothing more than a simple one-a***d and a lot of c**d r*****g. That show played monthly for 12 months and was a lot of fun to do.

I suppose I said all of that to basically say that it CAN in fact work QUITE WELL under certain circumstances; however, it's not something that I do in ALL of my performances across the board. While I still perform 4DT quite regularly, even in corporate shows, the Q & A I now perform regularly doesn't use envelopes at all and requires no set-up.

The fact that you are asking for advice on such makes me think that you are already aware of this, or at the very least see the potential pitfalls.



That's exactly my opinion. Very well explained.

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