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The first electronic copy of this has arrived.

The initial effect, The Triangle, is underwhelming. It reads to be an over worked and thought 'name and place' routine.

Others who have ordered this - am I being too hard on it? The routine reads like a throwaway filler article in a magic magazine.

Keen to hear how others like it. Hopefully it will improve.
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Ps - I'm referring to 'the works' released to psience subscribers.
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What about your box of stuff? It wasn't amazing?
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In my humble Smile opinion, I believe you are being a bit too hard. Think more big picture -- where this is all headed -- enjoy the journey/enjoy the destination type stuff. This is a small part of a larger whole that will unfold over time. It is more about making us better performers than teaching some revolutionary new secret. Now having written that last sentence, the initial effect I believe offers some unique ideas that will improve anyone's current "name and place" routine.

Plus we get a box of "cool stuff!"

I would be happy to discuss in greater detail via PM.

All the best,

Mike
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On Aug 28, 2016, Michael J Redd wrote:
In my humble Smile opinion, I believe you are being a bit too hard. Think more big picture -- where this is all headed -- enjoy the journey/enjoy the destination type stuff. This is a small part of a larger whole that will unfold over time. It is more about making us better performers than teaching some revolutionary new secret. Now having written that last sentence, the initial effect I believe offers some unique ideas that will improve anyone's current "name and place" routine.

Plus we get a box of "cool stuff!"

I would be happy to discuss in greater detail via PM.

All the best,

Mike


Hi mike

Cool - life to chat to you.

But honestly I see this as a big step back in n&p. Discarding to a wallet makes no sense to me. But perhaps just me?
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Its Real Secrets all over again Smile
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At the beginning of the writing, he mentions this is part of a three phase routine, so it will probably make more sense as the other two phases are revealed. As a stand alone piece, it leaves a few holes you have to fill on your own to make it a stronger piece.

I ran into Michael at the Session Convention, and he tipped this as part of a longer routine (it was a lobby conversation with a small group, not part of his lecture). If the upcoming phases are similar to what I remember, it wraps up nicely and both spectators get a nice reveal. (It might or might not involve a fortune cookie prediction for the other spectator Smile ).
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I am looking forward to the next 2 phases!
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Yes hopefully the whole thing will be good when it comes together.

But - isn't it a bit lazy? Shouldn't they have a full routine every instalment? It feels like they've sold us three fly and are only showing us the first movement. I don't get it.

Also - the original cassidy name and place routine, which this is certainly based on/inspired by - is far better in comparison.

Wow, I sound like a real grump!
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I actually liked the first effect. Love the way its presented too. Received my box today and I'm very intrigued to find out how it all fits together.
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On Aug 28, 2016, Michael J Redd wrote:
In my humble Smile opinion, I believe you are being a bit too hard. Think more big picture -- where this is all headed -- enjoy the journey/enjoy the destination type stuff. This is a small part of a larger whole that will unfold over time. It is more about making us better performers than teaching some revolutionary new secret. Now having written that last sentence, the initial effect I believe offers some unique ideas that will improve anyone's current "name and place" routine.

Plus we get a box of "cool stuff!"

I would be happy to discuss in greater detail via PM.

All the best,

Mike


If you're paying for the journey, it's nice to understand what you're paying for.
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I'm on board with The Works.

I thoroughly enjoyed learning the first offering and I'm eager to learn from every subsequent offering.

Aside from the smart effect within the first issue, I can honestly say that one simple note within the pages is being applied in all my performances since my initial reading.

The box contains diabolical secrets and I'm excited to see how they are applied.

This is an opportunity to learn from the true masters.

I'm excited an you should be too.

Christopher.
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View, I have performed Cassidy's name place for years (since the VHS came out!) and I like this better for a few reasons:

I can stay on stage the whole time

No folding of the cards (why?)

I never touch the cards

No fire, burning or tearing up cards

The reveal is visual and audible

And now that we see how all the pieces tie together, nothing goes to waste.
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Michael Weber is a fantastic mentalist. That's why I signed on. But without going into detail in a public forum, I am a bit underwhelmed at the moment (4 installments in hand).
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Michael Weber is undeniably a brilliant mentalist.

He's also friends with Ricky Jay, whose contempt for hobbyist magicians is legendary. Ricky simply shuns them.

Michael Weber sells to hobbyists, but I think to a certain degree he shares Ricky's feelings and, in my view, those feelings are manifested in his commercial dealings with the hobbyists.
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Tim, how so?

Was he rude to you or did he sell you something that was not a good trick?
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Yes, after all this time, I continue to be disappointed.

Not professional grade material at all.
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I really do hope this isn't a case of a professional manifesting his contempt for us mere mortals by selling us crap. That seems unnecessarily cruel. I am a bit underwhelmed as most seem to be but I fully admit I haven't tried anything live yet.
I do find the format to be off putting as well. The structure of the instructions jumps around a bit too much for my tastes.
The package itself is very intriguing I think.
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No updates since last installment? Is this dead now?
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We were promised one installment a month, for twelve months, as I remember. I have received nothing since January 4th. This is no way to treat customers who spent $350 on this product. Quite disappointed at the moment.
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