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dominik Regular user Germany 143 Posts |
Bill Malone has a great presentation for the Invisible Deck on Vol. 3 of his "On the Loose" video series. The I.D: I bought also came with 3 patter suggestions along with instructions by Daryl.
I'll give an outline of Bill Malone's presentation, but a short one, because I want you to buy the tapes, their great! 1) Call up a member of the audience to act as the magician: "Ladies and gentlemen, we have a special guest in the audience, he has always wanted to be a magician... let's have a big round of applause for David!" 2) Show the invisible deck (not the real one, just pretend. You don't take out the *real* I.D. until the climax), ask him to give it a shuffle 3) Spectator pretends to shuffle. Watch him shuffle. "Oh, you got to take 'em out of the box first!" *giggles* 4) Have him walk up to someone in the crowd, ask them to pick out any card, turn it over, and put it back into the deck. 5)Ask him to come back on stage, put the deck into the card case, and throw you deck. 6) You produce the *real* I.D. at the fingertips. The I.D. was loaded into classic palm while he was out there having a card selected and returned to the deck. 7) Thank him for his assistence. "Give him a big round of applause." 8) "But let's make sure the trick worked." Ask for the name of the card and produce it. This description is grossly abbreviated. I really recommend you go out and buy those videos while I think of my own, alternative presentation ;-) |
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kOnO Special user 548 Posts |
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On 2004-04-03 10:53, Xia wrote: Sounds interesting but you need to make sure the spectators don’t get the idea that you are doing the old “MATH TRICK” (think of a number add 2 and subtract the original number, You are thinking of 2). They might think this is what you are doing by having them go lower or add something to the thought of card. You don’t want them to change their minds too often. Just my $.02 worth kOnO
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THEHATER New user Yugoslavia 37 Posts |
Just say it magically reveals itself.. they will be amazed. Be nothing like David Blaine.
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CamelotFX Special user Minnesota 596 Posts |
The ID has a zillion uses. I think my most common is like Bill Palmer said: I turn my back and "turn over the card they're thinking of." Of course they have to tell me what card they were thinking of before I fan the deck "...so the audience knows you're telling the truth!" It's all about their honesty, never mine!
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Platt Inner circle New York 2011 Posts |
The biggest error in mentalism sounds something like this:
"I want you to merely think of any card. Okay. Now tell me what you card you are thinking of." Why should they? Isn't that your job. Whether it's invisible deck or a nailwriter, never do this. If you need the information, simply say "call out any card(or number, name, etc). You can reinforce the mentalism aspect by afterwords saying: "okay, so you're thinking of the Seven of Diamonds. You could have thought of any card, but you chose to think of that one."
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CamelotFX Special user Minnesota 596 Posts |
Good point, Platt. Now if I can just figure out how to tell what card they're thinking of without their communicating it to me somehow, I can collect James Randi's million dollars, make voting machines obsolete and stop wondering whether my wife is mad at me when she says: "Nothing!"
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muzicman Special user LaCenter, Wa 989 Posts |
I have used several of the methods above and they all seem to work just fine depending on the presentation. I have used a slightly different presentation that leaves the spectators simply mystified.
I begin by asking if anyone has heard of subliminal advertising. (The subject itself is interesting). Many people have heard of it but for those that don't I give a brief explanation using a movie theater flashing 1 frame of hot buttery popcorn and an icey drink. Soon people were leaving their seats to buy popcorn and sodas. I explain it was a message to their subconscience, and the people never knew why they had the sudden urge to go to the lobby. I then explain I would like to try an experiment using subliminal messages and seek a volunteer. I ALWAYS get someone. I turn around (like some of you already do)and pretend to setup the deck with one upside down...I then turn around and ask if they are ready for the message.(they actually see me putting the deck in the case as I turn around) (They have no reason to believe I didn't do what I said I was doing) I take a deep breath and look them in the eye and say something that sounds like "Pluck a duck" as fast as I can at an octave higher than I would normally say it. I then ask them if any card comes into their mind. If they say no..I repeat the same gibberish. They will always come up with something by the 2nd time (but most on the first try). I ask them which card they are thinking of, they name it and I carefully open the pack and spread the cards to reveal 1 face down. I let them grab it and turn it and of course they are amazed. I then say "Some people accuse me of being lucky, to disprove this, I'd like to try it again. repeat as above. (use differnet gibberish of course) The 2nd time wows them and I close by saying "resist your impulse urges at the theater, watching tv, or reading magazine ads. There are MANY books on this subject at your local library, but if you learn it..only use your powers for good and never evil". end of routine! Your personality and confidence sells the routine. It works for me as a variation. In large groups, I face the spec so the gibberish is only clearly heard by them. It's amazing how many people know about and believe in subliminal advertising. |
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Brandon Delgado Loyal user St. Louis, Missouri 293 Posts |
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On 2004-10-28 14:07, Platt wrote: I agree. In my presentation of ID, after the spectator has made their invisible selection, I tell them to show everyone else in the audience. I ask the audience if they can see it, to which they will either reply "yes," playing along with gag, or "no," if they like to be difficult. Either way, I say "You shouldn't--it's invisible," which tends to get a small laugh, leading me to say further "Okay, since we can't really see your card, just tell everyone which one you chose." Now the spectator with the invisible card has a reason to say the name of the card before I go into the revelation. How is anyone else supposed to enjoy the trick if they don't know what card was selected? So the spectator now willingly names the card out loud, and I can go into the ever-startling revelation with my now visible ID. It seems to work pretty well. Brandon |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
After I tell people there is one card in the deck backward, I walk around the room with the invisible deck, a post it note stuck to the invisible deck, and a sharpie. Then I ask 4 questions:
1. pick a color red, or black. (answer red) 2. pick a suit hearts, or diamonds. (answer diamonds) I then write a diamond on the post it note. 3. you sir high, or low. (answer low) 4. last question you sir in the back, pick a card from one, to seven. (answer 6) write a 6 next to diamond on the note. So we have cumulatively predicted the 6 of diamonds, while pointing to the deck. you have gotten four people to make their prediction, which stresses that it is a very random prediction. Then you pick the 6 of diamonsd. Act surprised, and take a bow. Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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Sedition New user London 12 Posts |
I use it as a get out if a verbal card force doesn't work on the subject - that way you leave them thinking they were being directed to add to the backup on the mentalism angle. If they think they were being led they won't look for a 'trick', they will just think you are manipulating them which adds to the intruige
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Shnarker New user Pittsburgh, PA 89 Posts |
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On 2004-03-31 15:13, Bill Palmer wrote: This is absolutely strong. The Malone approach is similar. I use the ID as part of an audience exercise for using their imagination. I refer to it as an "Imaginary Deck", as opposed to invisible. I found that just this word, imaginary, is less likely to have a spec ask me to spread the cards first before naming the card. This has worked for me very well. |
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DrNorth Veteran user North Starr Entertainment, Harrisburg PA 364 Posts |
I like teh invisible deck, but I have now resigned it as an "out" and save it fr a miffed force, or a smart aleck spectator who changes his mind about a chosen card ( lies about it) I like having this net a safety valve.
"For it shows things that were, and things that are, and things that yet may be. But which it that he sees, even the wisest cannot always tell" ~Galadriel "A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes." |
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Jake Austin Loyal user Colorado Springs 237 Posts |
I use it in the "I had a dream about you last night" context.
"In my dream you told me a card. I spread through a deck and the card you named was the only one face down. When I woke up this morning, I got my deck of cards and turned over the card in my dream. Do you want to see if my dream can come true? Are you thinking of a card already? What is it?" This is just the bare bones of it. There is a lot of comedy potential in this presentation. Don't be afraid to use it, the trick will still be there when the laughter dies. Jake Credits: I first was exposed to the dream context of tricks by Darwin Ortiz's Dream Card.
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magicsteve99 New user 53 Posts |
I combine the 10 of spades long card with the invisible deck. The long card is a dealer item. I ask someone to think of a card. I announce, "with no fumbling at all, I will pull the very card you thought of from my pocket. Was your card the three of spades? No? How about the four? the five? the six? the ten?" When they begin to laugh, they are disarmed. I causually ask, "What was the card you thought of?" From the same pocket, I take the invisible deck and finish the routine. This approach takes the heat off the deck, off the selection, off of almost everything. The idea of a joke to a miracle is one I use with several routines.
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b-gann New user 62 Posts |
I perform it as I have learned it from my invisible friend. and I get them to play with an invisible deck of cards.
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snap Loyal user New York, USA 218 Posts |
[quote]On 2004-03-21 06:54, alekz wrote:
What I wanted to ask is, what do you tell the spectator when they hold the deck? i, personally, never let the spec hold the deck, I like to be in control of my props, you never know if they might want to examine the cards. if you feel comfortable doing this, that's great, but when I'm performing, I prefer to put the deck on the table, or somewhere in plain sight, and tell the spec to watch it closely, I then go on to tell my story, and have them imagine themselves somewhere else (on another planet, underwater, wherever) and turning a card around in the deck, and then reveal it.
**--snap--**
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nums Veteran user I have a life, or I would have more than 366 Posts |
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On 2004-08-30 02:13, houdini wrote: I say "I really don't know s I am not that good" |
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lynnef Inner circle 1407 Posts |
Quote: I sometimes start out with Platt's suggestion (ie ask them to call out a card name ahead of time, before you even introduce the deck). Another suggestion is to fan an 'imaginary' deck in front of their faces, asking which card they chose (or would they like to choose another?). Incidentally, watch their faces when they call out the joker!
On 2004-08-30 02:13, houdini wrote: |
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