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Skeptic New user Holland MI 46 Posts |
Which coins do you prefer and why?
I have a set of Morgans. I like them for there heft and size. I have not worked with Liberties. |
Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
Liberty dollar coins were not circulated as much as Morgans so there are few worn or "soft" Liberty dollars around. The shiny Liberty works good for retention passes. I use mostly Morgans.
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KirkG Inner circle 1391 Posts |
I soften the liberty coins so I get a soft coin with real strong edge milling. They are slightly larger than regular dollar coins, so the are good warm up coins but some spectators and or magicians may have smaller hands. That is why I use fifty cent piece sized coins when working in the spectator's hands.
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Michele Veteran user Taiwan 301 Posts |
If your hands not too small,use Morgans they're more visible.
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
I was talking about the seated liberty dollar coin. These are fairly rare coins and generally much more expensive than Morgans or Peace Dollars. They are certainly interesting looking but I would not use them for routine coin work because of their cost.
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Skeptic New user Holland MI 46 Posts |
I was thinking of the walking liberty. I think those are called peace dollars. They are smaller than Morgans.
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
Walking Liberty coins are half dollars. Any dollar size version is a copy or commemorative coin. Peace Dollars are the same size as Morgans and are not that expensive.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
OK, let’s clear up our discussion about United States Silver dollar coins.
As Larry states there is no “Walking Liberty” silver dollar. The largest "Walking Liberty" coin was a half-dollar. Silver dollar coinage includes: (there are earlier mintages but I’ll start with the 1840 mintage): 1840-1873 Seated Liberty 1873–1885 Seated Liberty “trade dollars” were mainly used as currency in the orient. 1878-1921 Morgan Dollars (fairly common and easy to find) 1921-1935 Peace Dollars (also fairly easy to find) 1971- 1978 Eisenhower dollars (very inexpensive and very easy to find) You can read a nice history of the Dollar coin here and see examples of all Dollar coins here The newly minted Silver Eagles are not circulated coins and are a special mintage for collectors and investors. They run about $10.00 a coin and are beautiful! Get them from a coin dealer. I use Silver Eagles for some close-up work (only because everyone else is using the Morgans!) and Eisenhower dollars for a stand-up Misers Dream routine (I "softened" them myself with a grinder and a buffer).
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Peo Olsson Inner circle Stockholm, Sweden 3260 Posts |
I recently purchased four Morgan silver dollars from a magic dealer in America (got em in 5 days), and I love them. I have previously used Eisenhower dollars, but the Morgans top them.
Can't say much about Liberties, cause I have never used them. Peo
Pictured to the left my hero and me during FISM 2006 in Stockholm.
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KirkG Inner circle 1391 Posts |
OK The coins I was referencing are the Silver Eagles. Slightly larger than a dollar with a real sharp milled edge. Made entirely out of silver and can be softened on the faces to make three fly work and yet still have good grip in classic palm.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
Kirt, Todd Lassen can make several gaff coins out of these, including the U3F set.
They are truly beautiful coins and you won't see many magicians using them. They are a good choice to use (of course I would say that as I do use them!). Peo, you are absolutely right about the Morgans. They are a nice looking coin too! You can show them as antique coins and garner a great deal of interest just showing them. I collect Mint State Morgans (my unrated set is only a few key coins from being complete and worth a small house!).
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Currently I use both.
I start out with 3 liberties and 3 realistic sterling chinese coins. Then I change 3 liberties into 3 Morgans. ... ... ... .. and then... and then... but I digress. Harris
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tedski Special user New Jersey 792 Posts |
I must be starting to love coins too much (if possible!)
Kirk, I have the Silver Eagles and find it a very pretty coin - so much that I can't bear the thought of softening them (as you explained to me in the past). In fact, I bought five and just have them in their cases, LOL. Therefore, I use Morgans that are already worn and I finish with the softening techniques. Not nearly as much milling, but good enough for me. |
KirkG Inner circle 1391 Posts |
Soften them now before they become collectible, otherwise in a 100 years you won't be able to bring yourself to do it.
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tedski Special user New Jersey 792 Posts |
That's a good point Kirk -
I guess that's why I buy Morgans that are usually referred to as culls - I figure they are already aesthetically inferior, so whats the harm. Maybe I should send you my Silver Eagles - I can't bring myself to put them to the sander - it would be on YOUR conscience then....LOL |
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