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Race Blakhart Special user Selma,CA 624 Posts |
That's awesome, Doc! Welcome to the Café!
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magicstudent8416 Regular user 172 Posts |
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On Sep 20, 2016, Steven Keyl wrote: Hmm the wiki said he learned it when he was 8 years off after getting a magic set; so the 'stereotypical way' Where did you get that he started so late? |
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Alewishus Inner circle parts unknown 1226 Posts |
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On Sep 20, 2016, Doc Willie wrote: Well....at 72 ya kinda have to. Just kidding! Anyhoo, just a warning to the kids out there that you should think twice before letting someone blow smoke up your azz - still a health hazard. A.
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Steven Keyl Inner circle Washington, D.C. 2630 Posts |
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On Sep 20, 2016, magicstudent8416 wrote: I had read that somewhere. I'll try to find the reference.
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Duderino Regular user 125 Posts |
I think it is never to late to start. I would guess that part of the fun is ALWAYS learning something new--no matter how long you've been doing it or how old you are. I am 54 years old and though I first became interested in magic at a young age--I got away from it for many years and pretty much started over about 6 years ago. I love it more than ever. Certainly age brings a certain set of challenges(not so much in your 30s)but there is always a way. Just enjoy it.
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
I remember a story I read about ten years ago about a woman in Chicago's South side who as a single mom raised five kids. After they had grown she decided to attend university and pursue her MD; she was 58 at the time and after she received her MD, she established clinics around Chicago's less fortunate neighborhood.
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RC Regular user 111 Posts |
You can do it!
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Glenn Morphew Elite user Chicago 486 Posts |
30's? You're still a kid.
BTW, good magic doesn't necessarily = difficult sleight of hand techniques. Learn card magic fundamentals and strive to do them well. Be a perfectionist in the fundamentals. Focus on quality rather than quantity. You can perform miracles with relatively few sleights if you dedicate yourself to learning them well. Learn to present the tricks you enjoy doing in interesting ways and your audience will enjoy them too. Perform for people whenever you can. (I'm glad to hear you've already performed in a casual bar setting) There is no substitute for performing for people. When you have fun your audience has fun. Don't take yourself or your magic too seriously. When it's done right, magic is a gift you give to others. Good Luck! Glenn
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
I believe Micky Silver got going in his 40's.
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Steven Leung Inner circle found the Magic Rainbow after 1614 Posts |
From what I heard, the late Derek Dingle started in his late thirties.
As for myself, I start in 26, now I am 41. According to skill problem, yes, some kind of card sleight do difficult or even impossible for me to master like a perfect second, bottom, greek deal, and most extreme card manipulations. However, in card magic, there are some many sleight exist and many effects just use one or two sleight to accomplish. I either do not perform card magic that require sleight I cannot master, or simply do another version that not require sleight that I cannot do, that simple. What I pursuit nowadays? I want every performance I do my audience will not saw / feel I do any sleight at all.
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
I know a magician who started in his 80's...so it is FAR from hopeless. As long as you are here and alive any time is a good time to start. I started at age 7 and still going strong 36 years later! Age is just a number and the less you focus on it the better you will be.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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SvenSigma Regular user Germany 151 Posts |
I did magic in my youth, but not very long and intense, then in my end-thirties my interest grew again. Took me a while to take off from that. There are advantages and disadvantages of starting late, which of course depend on one's own past.
To share my very own experience: I know how I learn and can apply that to learning and practicing magic. <- vs. -> My way of learning might be inflexible and not appropriate. I learned playing the guitar and drums before starting with serious card sleights, which seems to be helpful. <- vs. -> I just don't have the youthful determination to practice a simple coin roll until it looks good, so I might be stuck to cards only when it comes to sleight. Having a job that requires a lot of talking in front of people and presentation is good against stage fright. <- vs. -> Being conditioned to truthful, direct and clear communication could be an issue with misdirection and internal scripting. At that age, I think I have a somewhat rounded and stable character, which is not changing daily because of puberty. That helps finding my own voice for magic. <- vs. -> Well, that might be exactly a problem, depending on what other people think of my personality I have the money to buy books, DVDs, and tricks. <- vs. -> The danger of becoming a collector of magic instead of a magician is high. (Just yesterday I ordered Harry Lorayne's "The Magic Book" although I have enough beginner material, including Hay and Tarbell. It just was missing in the collection...) You can continue that list ad lib and add your own "flavor". I think in the end it is just one question that needs to be answered: Are you determined to become a real magician? (I mean "real" as opposite to curious bystander and/or YouTube exposure video viewer and/or trick collector.)
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lynnef Inner circle 1407 Posts |
I must say magicstudent, you have some very impressive responses from really great card magicians here. This has actually given me encouragement as well. So good luck, stop being discouraged, and HAVE FUN WITH MAGIC! Lynn
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JG New user 44 Posts |
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On Sep 18, 2016, magicstudent8416 wrote: You are definitely not too late; I've mentored many older than you who have gone onto love and contribute to the art. However, that's not my main point. I'll let others persuade you about the magic. I just wanted to say that you have not "wasted your life on things that are of no importance". Everything you do, and I mean everything, makes you the person you are today. Every action, holiday, club, friend, enemy, night in, book, play, relationship, conversation, etc etc etc forms you. Life is about so much more than doing things of importance. I'm lucky in what I do, but I recognise that nothing I've done, am currently doing, or will do in the future will ever be wasted. Love your life, live every day and let magic be one small part of it. Jack
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2016, magicstudent8416 wrote: Not really, with athletics being younger helps because it is very strenuous activity that breaks down the body over time and a lot quicker depending on the sport. I still do both but magic is much easier to keep doing in general. Finger-flicking can get hard on the fingers and hands but not as bad as sports or as intense. Most magicians reach their peak when they get older actually through experience. Not all magic is knuckle-busting though.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
My old friend Paddy "Peter Lansing" (RIP) on here started in his mid 50's I believe, and went on to become a full-time professional magician and clown into his 60's.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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LoganPorterMagic Regular user 137 Posts |
If it takes 5 years to be really good at something, by the time you are 35 you are already darn good!
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts |
It depends on how much you practice. I used to practice up to 18 hours per day as a kid and through my teen years, even in school and on the bus. I used to even get out of bed to work on a move as I could not sleep thinking about it. So my 5 years is probably equivalent to 50 years for others. I was determined to be a professional though and still going strong 36 years later!
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Infographicmagicreviews Regular user Nelson 137 Posts |
You gotta start somewhere don't you?
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Orlan Loyal user WA 223 Posts |
I just learned that Doc Eason started when he was 30.
I'd say he turned out alright. |
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