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magicstudent8416
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I have become interested if such a thing is possible or practical. Of course in person is best but I work from home and spend 90% of my time online so I wondered if there are tricks that can be learned that work behind a screen either phone or computer.

Any suggestions would be cool for further study. I have only studied coin and card magic so far so interested if magic is doable in this differing setting. I would imagine that mentalism would be the camp for such things? but I know next to nothing about it as of yet.
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Well, there are some mathematical tricks, still it is weird do perform them via text. I don't know the name of it, but there is a trick where spectator thinks of a random number, then through some mathematical calculations you can always make him end up on the same number, it could be 9 but I don't remember exactly.

Even if you were to perform magic square online, it is pointless via text, everyone would assume that you used some program to calculate it.

Why not use Skype with a camera? Then you can do all sorts of card or coin tricks if your camera is fast enough. Smile

It is still kind of strange to see magic even that way. If anyone could perform mentalism via text, they should probably apply for the 1 million dollar reward by Randi Smile
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Hehe good points.

that's ok I will cease this line of enquiry if it is not a practical thing. Just wanted to check.
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Maybe someone else will come up with better ideas. There are other interactive tricks based on math where you can predict on which square someone is going to end up, interactive tricks with cards (one is quite known with 5 cards and spectator has to just think of one). I've seen them but I can't say who created them or what they are called.
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Tequilla Hustler by Mark Elsdon would work well over the internet.
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/6435
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I've not read it, but the book Verbal Magic by Juan Tamariz has stuff done over the radio.
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Bob Kohler's "Prime Cut" includes a version designed to be done over the phone (available on DVD or download). Patrick Redford's "Heptagon" is a collection of effects that can be performed over the phone, presented as a graphic novel.
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On Sep 28, 2016, magicstudent8416 wrote:
I wondered if there are tricks that can be learned that work behind a screen either phone or computer.


I do Calendar Magic Square occasionally for young audience.

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Check out Jim Steinmeyer's Impuzzabilities books.

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On Sep 30, 2016, Stevious wrote:
If anyone could perform mentalism via text, they should probably apply for the 1 million dollar reward by Randi Smile


I will take that bet! I have a mentalism trick that SHOULD work via text! Do you have a facebook, Stevious?
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It does depend a bit on your exact situation. There are many tricks that were designed to be done over the phone. Most could be adapted to online, but the big question is how you come to be performing in that situation. For instance, I have a piece I do over the phone sometimes that involves mailing a client (or potential client) a deck of cards in advance. I then call them and do a trick using that deck of cards. There are others that involve just getting the audience to follow a set of instructions, and they end up doing the trick on themselves. Those can be done online, but most are still best done "live" in the sense that if there's a lot of time-delay between the beginning and the end, too much can go wrong.

If you are working live, the webcam blows the field wide open so that you can do a LOT of magic even if it wasn't meant for long-distance work.

One other class of tricks are those that have been designed as "interactive" pieces for television or radio. Often they aren't the strongest magic, but there are several out there. Again I'm not a ton of help because I don't recall where they're published off hand, but someone could probably point you in the right direction.

Putting those aside, yeah, you're probably going to want to look at mathematical stuff. Some are openly mathematical (that is, the tricks are about numbers), while others just have mathematical principles behind the scenes as part of the method. You might look at some of the stuff Martin Gardner published. Lots of curiosities, lots of great magic. And though I don't have any books in front of me right now to comment in great detail, I'd wager with a bit of creativity, several of his tricks could be adapted to online performances.

The bottom line: figure out how you want to do your magic online, and then it should be possible to find something to meet your needs.
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but the big question is how you come to be performing in that situation


This!! If you are just going to tell a friend or even a stranger "Send me a text and I'll do some magic for you", then you've lost the whole foundation of magic: entertainment! Instead, you've just reduced everything to a puzzle, and it's either an app or some cleaver trick.

The best use of this method is something along the lines of Bob's thoughts: the person is interested in *you* and what you do, and they will buy into your story line because they want to be entertained. If you've already dazzled 'em with your cards or whatever, and they want to see more, then this might make a decent next step in the progression.

The other thing to keep in mind is that, since magic is supposed to be entertaining (did I mention that yet??), if the person isn't right there, then you are going to have to overcome quite a bit to bring them into the mode and mood of being entertained. The puzzle of magic steps being worked out on someone is NOT entertaining, nor is it entertainment. If you do something completely by text or internet with zero personal interaction, you have a huge mountain to climb to get them to buy into the entertainment of it.

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Back in the '30s, Will Lindhorst ("Chandu", I think) had a radio show St. Louis, MO). He did tricks on the radio. I never heard him! --I was too young (b. '31) and, our "crystal" radio in northern Michigan, wouldn't have picked up St. Louis, anyway!

Lindhorst had a magic shop in St. Louis for years, IIRC, Gene DeVoe bought it when Will retired.

I met Will in '50 at the I. Bother, Magicians. Convention. He gave discounts to pro's. --Heqq! I wasn't a pro. yet!
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