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ROBERT BLAKE
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I am looking for a rope effect. THE EFFECT: Magician shows rolled up rope, several feet. next he makes nots in the rope. creating a kind of chain. then he undo the knots and the rope transforms to severeal endles loops.

looking looking for this effect thanks
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Robert

This is what I think you are looking for http://www.laflinmagicstore.com/product-p/coom.htm

Best of luck

Mark
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Mark & Robert...

This is a trick that Abbott's put out about 30 years ago. It was "invented" by a magician in South America (Argentina, I think). Neil Foster put it into his own act.

I bought one (to "play with") as it was a bit different, easy to do, and the effect was visible. Neil did it with music (no patter).

It never got into my act. I just couldn't come up with a presentation for it. I can't think of the catalog name. Next time I'm out to my storage facility, I'll check a few old Abbott Catalogs, and pass along what I find. (If I can find it!)

Duane probably "borrowed" the bit from Abbott's. I don't think that Abbott lists it anymore.
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These doen't sound like what you asked about, but, for your consideration.

There a few methods available that will create 2 or 3 pairs of linked ropes (e.g.; Anytime, Anywhere Linking Ropes - no gaffs, but starts with 3 separate lengths).

The Trinity: 3 separate (ungaffed) ropes are tied to themselves (forming 3 "separate" loops), then it is transformed into a single loop of all the ropes. (in 12 Gospel Tricks with a Rope, Del Wilson)

I did find a demo(no reference) of something called "Mexican Rope", that sounds very much like what you mentioned (ending with ~5 separate rope-circles). The first phase of this seems to use a standard method to quickly tie many knots in a single rope. The second/last phase most likely uses a standard rope gimmick. You might try a search for this name.

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It's called Lucky Loops. I bought a set from Supreme Magic back in the 70's! You can currently get it here 2nd hand for $4.20 !!
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Yes! Thanks, Neal! Sorry John Long!

Robert: Once you have the prop (rope!) you can easily duplicate it.

I now remember, selling mine, years ago.
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I also owned Abbott's Lucky Loops, when Abbott's put it out over 40 years ago. Could not see the effect being good in a my show. I though it did not have a beginning that satisfied me.

And yes, Neil Foster liked it a lot for his long and large stage show.

They still sell it.

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Abbotts-Lucky......oryId=-1
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To all that is the effect and everybody thank you. I will go hunting.

i like the effect done with old rope as an opener for my pirate show. just on music. visual magic. easy big magic different all things Dick likes.

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did a search on mexican rope. and found this version. I like this very much. good performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYqahp0VFOA
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Dick

I do remember Duane saying that this had "roots" in a South American magician, however he could not remember his name.

Mark
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On Nov 2, 2016, ROBERT BLAKE wrote:
To all that is the effect and everybody thank you. I will go hunting.

i like the effect done with old rope as an opener for my pirate show. just on music. visual magic. easy big magic different all things Dick likes.

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did a search on mexican rope. and found this version. I like this very much. good performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYqahp0VFOA


Yes, that is the exact same video that I had previously downloaded (but didn't remember where I got it from), and it seems to fit the description given to "Lucky Loops" (an odd name). Yet, it seems funny that a Japanese(?) company would come up with a "Mexican" rope trick.

Dick + others, nothing to be sorry about Smile. Many of us "pitched in", and eventually some useful information resulted. I think that makes it "fun" for us all.

Knots Off;
John
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Right John! (I was just teasing when I said that!)
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Right John! (I meant that I was just teasing when I said "Sorry"!)
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The video clip version linked to above shows a slightly different version of this trick from the one that I bought from the Supreme Magic Company.

Unlike this version Supreme's version allowed for a magical narrative that was consistent through to the end of the routine. In addition the removal of the loops was magically much more open and in my opinion much more impactful. as a bonus this handling simultaneously helped to keep the method much more robustly disguised than the handling shown in this video.

With Supreme's version he rope was shown, the ends were knotted together and the that knot was then the supposed catalyst that 'created' the formation of the other knots along the ropes doubled over length. Then, rather than loosening all the knots like the video shows, each knot (starting from the last one formed) was untied. This resulted in the 'shedding' off of an endless loop and an apparent shortening of the piece of rope. Each time a knot was untied it resulted in an endless loop and the rope being shorter. Eventually there was just a shorter piece of rope left tied together and the two loose ends. This knot was then untied and in doing so the ends 'disappeared' resulting in one final endless piece of rope. So each time a not was undone an endless loop resulted and this was true even for the original knot tied.

It's a small difference but the handling and the consistency I think made for a much better effect than this one in the video.
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Thanks sealegs good points.
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The trick is older but the name come from a Brazilian magician named Mr Lucky that an american magician know.
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