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shooz
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Hi all,
Wondering if anyone can give a review of the NEW version of this act. I know there is a BOR book included.
I have the original but just wondered how much of a change there is.
Also, is this available through dealers or only through Docc.
Thanks in advance...
Shooz
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I do NOT possess the NEW and IMPROVED version, but I do own the original (which I think is brilliant) and I was on the preview call for this updated version. On the call, which featured Michael Weber, Docc was asked how this version compared with the original.

Docc said the "fundamental method is the same" - and if you have the original, you'll know what that means. But there's been 20 years of experience on top of the original with tweaks and new writing and updated presentational ideas which warranted a new release. Also, as you'll recall, the original video is only (like) 44 minutes long ... and this new incarnation is a couple of hours of instruction.

Don't know if that answered your question, but that's my perspective from someone thoroughly satisfied with the original.

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I have this but not the older method, so I am no help also.....



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Oscar, Ray...
Thanks for your response.
Question... Do you use this at all? If so, what's the best method you've found to add the w*****g to the c***s?
I am hoping someone has used/has both and can elaborate on the differences.
Thanks again,
Shooz
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How long does the PMCA last roughly? How flexible is it when it comes to duration?

Thanks, Patrick
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Will there be a discount for those of us who own the original?
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On Nov 19, 2016, Philemon Vanderbeck wrote:
Will there be a discount for those of us who own the original?


This is not a new product. Docc released this updated version about two years ago, if I remember correctly.
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It's wonderful.
There is new stuff to it (it's been a while since I had the original so I can't itemize) and there is also a LOT that is explained in depth as well. All aspects of adding anything to anything else, wether or not too, pros and cons, etc are discussed and explained.

I don't do the routine as presented (or I haven't yet), but I use so much of the presentational points for what I do and it is truly amazing (the presentational points and the thinking that is ...I'm not patting myself on the back!).

Mister E,
It is EXTREMELY flexible in terms of length, you can do the whole thing in 15 minutes (I've literally done an abbreviated version of it in 5 minutes for a an open mic and got a huge response) and can easily go 30 minutes.
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..If you're already doing it, and have done it for a while, you'll obviously be fine with what you're doing, even though you'll benefit from the new product.

If you haven't done it yet, or have only just started, you most certainly want the new product. 100%
"Love is the magician who pulls man out of his own hat" - Ben Hecht

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Seadog93...
Is there an updated way to apply the w*****g to the c***s?
I tried doing it from the original with little success.
Thanks,
Shooz
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I'm not always great with the ******
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Shooz, get some sheets of stickers for mailing addresses.

Type the info on them and print them off on your printer.

Then, you can stick them on.
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Oh, I get it!
Yes, you CAN do the above, but in the new act he explains why it's better not to do that, and exactly how to go about doin it in the new recommended way (which is literally the easiest of all possible ways).
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Another possibility is to use this deck:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1622/25607......e9_b.jpg
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That's a cool looking deck.
That's along the lines if the original.
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"Love says 'I am everything.' Wisdom says 'I am nothing'. Between the two, my life flows." -Nisargadatta Maharaj

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shooz
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Thanks all..
CB guy: you don't think the stickers will add to the thickness of the deck?
Shooz
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On Nov 20, 2016, Philemon Vanderbeck wrote:
Another possibility is to use this deck:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1622/25607......e9_b.jpg


It's a great deck - contact the artist who created it - Chris Gould - to see about availability. He is a member on The Café, and his email is alchemy_moon@hotmail.com
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Shooz, It will not cause any problems with the deck.

I used to do this act for several years, way back in the 90's.

I was hanging out with Docc when he came through Chicago and he suggested the idea.

Keep in mind, the only person handling the deck is you.

It works very well.
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Can anyone supply a link so I know I'm looking at the right one?
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Psycho Seance book: https://tinyurl.com/y873bbr4
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Christopher, here is where you can get it.

http://ientertainer.net/store/docc-hilfo......-package
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