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JamieD
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I personally think this looks wicked! Magic should always be about incorporating all of the senses. Rarely in magic do we get to fool people ears which to me, sounds like a giggle during gigs. I can imagine this bringing a little smile to my face each time I use it. In terms of it sounding too.. 'pingyg', our art is surrounded by mis representations of everyday things which always go unnoticed by our spectators. Magic is buried with discrepancies for the eyes that go unnoticed everyday! Why should we presume those discrepancies wont go unnoticed purely because its audible? Does a TT look like a thumb? Does a Omni deck really feel the same as a normal deck? How do they not feel their watch leave their wrist? Each of these things plays on a different sense and is highly discrepant and yet, goes completely unnoticed by the spectator. I truly believe there is nothing to be worried about in terms of the sound and hopefully in the new year, ill pick this up and give it a go. It really does seem like an excellent idea!

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Hey guys, just wanted to share my two cents on PING after having received the gimmick the other day.

So I had a chance to play around with this a bit and it really is as great as it sounds (pun intended). I'm going to try my best to answer some things that people might be wondering about without exposing anything. A few people may already have a good idea as to what the gimmick is already, but nonetheless..

Regarding the sound of the actual ping, it's doesn't necessarily have to make one consistent noise. You can control the sound to an extent. It's easy to make the ping louder, to make it the sound "softer" will take a little finesse but you can certainly get different pitches from activating the gimmick.

One interesting thing to note is that Tobias does actually teach a way to flip a coin in the air to make it sound EXACTLY like the gimmick. So there's really no need to worry about the sound being off in any way.

The gimmick will take a little getting used to. It was a little more knacky than I originally thought it would be, but not too bad. It's only been a day for me and I have it down pretty consistently already. You have to "break in" the gimmick when you get it as well. This takes only maybe a few minutes or so. Tobias of course goes over all of this, operation, sound, maintenance ect.. Once it's broken in, operating the gimmick becomes a lot easier and you'll become more consistent with the sound you want to make. It'll still require a bit of practice either way.

The gimmick is also very durable and should last quite a while. There is only one part that could possibly wear out, and they provide you with some extra of that material in case it does. Even though I've only been playing with this for a day, I think there's a fairly low probability of anything breaking. Seems like you would have to put quite a bit of stress on the gimmick in order for it to break.

Video was top notch, really enjoyed it. Teaching was very clear and Tobias goes over everything you need to know about the gimmick as well as a number of routines and ideas. The coin appearing in the spectators hand is just brilliant. Easily my favorite routine. That and having a coin vanishing in the spectators hand I feel was worth the price alone. Seriously, he could have taught only those two routines and I would have been happy.

Just about all of the ideas/routines presented on the video I think I'm going to use in one form or another though. There were actually a couple non-coin ideas on here as well which were really interesting as well and gets you thinking about how versatile this gimmick really is.

All in all, I had high hopes for this product and it definitely delivered and then some. Certainly exceeded my expectations. I really do feel that this adds a whole new dimension to coin magic. As great as the ideas on here are, there is still so much more that can be done with this gimmick. I already have quite a few ideas in mind already. This is absolutely one of my favorite purchases this year. Congrats and thanks to Tobias for releasing such a fantastic and original product.

-Jameson
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I like the effect but I'm not willing to pay that amount for it. I find E too expensive for my tastes. Also the exchange rate is crap right now. Plus postage. Nah, not for me.
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How durable is the gimmick??
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Very durable. It has one part that will wear out, and the replacement for that is supplied and should last you a good while.
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On Dec 7, 2016, jamo425 wrote:

The gimmick is also very durable and should last quite a while. There is only one part that could possibly wear out, and they provide you with some extra of that material in case it does. Even though I've only been playing with this for a day, I think there's a fairly low probability of anything breaking. Seems like you would have to put quite a bit of stress on the gimmick in order for it to break.

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Thanks guys 👍
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On Dec 1, 2016, WitchDocChris wrote:
Tobias teaches a very clever ditch or two in the video.


I agree. Ping is original and unique -- great idea with several noteworthy routines. I have an extra one if someone wants to buy it.
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Can you carry the gimmick inside your wallet?
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I don't think you could, no.

Well, you probably -could-, but it wouldn't be comfortable and that may damage it if you carry the wallet in your back pocket.
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This could be really cool especially if you add blackbird with it.
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Think this could be killer combined with clonk!


Perfect combination! Smile
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On Nov 26, 2016, 350zTT wrote:

Think this could be killer combined with clonk!


Good thinking. Thank you.

Smile
P.S. In case one doesn't like the big size electronic gimmick of Clonk, one can use Handy Sound, a small versatile electronic sound gimmick.
Handy Sound - http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S12513

The PING sound can easily be added to Handy Sound gimmick thus making it one complete unit. Just a thought.
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Out of stock unfortunately Ustaad. Great idea though.
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I have been working on this. At times I feel it's too bold. Not getting the reaction that I was expecting. Any advise would be great.
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Yes. Send it back for a refund.
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I have been working on this. At times I feel it's too bold. Not getting the reaction that I was expecting. Any advise would be great.


I don't have it but your sentence is interesting. If it's only "at times", does it mean that when you are being scrutinized, some specs discover that you hide a gimmick? Were you actually busted or do you fear that you could be busted? Does the "at times" only apply to yourself and feel guilty because you need to hide a gimmick in the context of your routines?
- If you feel guilty: I personally feel that magicians should never feel ashamed of using bold moves, on the opposite I feel like that accomplishing such moves is a big reward, because at the end we are able to get away with it and please (trick) our spectators.
- If you flash the gimmick: this is just a matter of more practice. I used to stop performing the tricks that I failed to present well to my audience because it reminded me of my bad performance. I was wrong to stop practicing. After rehearsing more some of those, I happened to produce a much better show and put them back in my repertoire, getting rid of the early shame and transforming it into a personal victory, this is a double win. I would say that you should at least do it 100 times in a row flawlessly before showing it to anyone. You will get the knack and get rid of the guilt by automating your gestures through intense rehearsal. If you practice, use your webcam instead of a mirror and record your rehearsal. Don't look at yourself while practicing, the real-time video feedback does not exist in real life so focus on your hands and their positions to not flash anything through your rehearsal. Try to put the camera at your spec's eye level to correctly rehearse your angles. Scrutinize yourself POST-rehearsal and check for potential flashes. I would also not introduce the gimmick at first but do a short routine with the coin before loading it to remove the suspicion which is always created by the initial trick. Never start by the routine which could get you busted, always use your surefire set to gain self-confidence and your spectator's as well before the bolder moves happen.

If you liked the effect when you saw it and feel that the product is right after you received it, then don't stop there and give it justice by making a good performance out of it! You will help yourself and the creator.
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I have been working on this. At times I feel it's too bold. Not getting the reaction that I was expecting. Any advise would be great. Ya get better. Takes me months befor I show a new effect
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On Dec 29, 2016, MR Effecto wrote:
At times I feel it's too bold. Not getting the reaction that I was expecting. Any advise would be great. Ya get better. Takes me months befor I show a new effect


Something might be wrong but saying that it's too bold doesn't really explain what...
Is it the idea of using the gimmick to make the sound of a coin? Or is it in the context of the routine, pretending that it lands into the spectator's hand?...
Without understanding what makes you feel uncomfortable, giving you a right advice is not possible.
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There are many routines possible using this gimmick, some not as bold as others (some I'd hardly consider to be bold at all). But if the routine is a little too bold for you, I'd suggest trying out some routines that are less risky to gain confidence.

If reactions are the concern, then change your presentation and or routine. As with any gimmick, you need to learn how to use it, and how to use it effectively. If you're blaming the gimmick, that's like blaming a guitar for not playing beautiful music. The artist is the one who controls what music the audience hears just like the performer is the one who controls what magic the audience sees.
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