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Magic KL
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Just saw this, but I don't think I like it...maybe I am just thinking like a magician...

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/7745
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On Nov 30, 2016, Magic KL wrote:
Just saw this, but I don't think I like it...maybe I am just thinking like a magician...

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/7745


That reminds me a lot of a Justin Miller effect! starts at 2:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78CoU9WGQU0
My latest Rubberband effect
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/7616

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-rjVv3a60g&t=18s
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Kill Bill looks a lot cleaner
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Looks like Ripped and Fryed by Charlie Frye on Paul Harris' True Astonishments DVD Set Vol 6. But adapted to be used with a bill instead of another card.
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The problem I see is it's advertised as walkaround. I have it. There's too much work to make enough for walkaround. IMHO

For a show it's OK.
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I have it and I like it. It's easy to do and looks real good
Dan does a good job explaining it. You get a single live rperfoamnce as well.

There is something to construct, but it's easy to do.
Obviously you are destroying cards and your something with each performance, so you need to make several if you plan to do it more than once in an event. .
I agree that it doesn't seem to be able to be performed fully surrounded, none of these types of effects usually are though.

The above aren't necessarily negatives, just points for consideration, dependeding on your performance style and setting.

If you like the look of it in the trailer, you'll like it.
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On Nov 30, 2016, MagicallyMe wrote:
I have it and I like it. It's easy to do and looks real good
Dan does a good job explaining it. You get a single live rperfoamnce as well.

There is something to construct, but it's easy to do.
Obviously you are destroying cards and your something with each performance, so you need to make several if you plan to do it more than once in an event. .
I agree that it doesn't seem to be able to be performed fully surrounded, none of these types of effects usually are though.

The above aren't necessarily negatives, just points for consideration, dependeding on your performance style and setting.

If you like the look of it in the trailer, you'll like it.


Just not too practical for walkaround as stated.
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I was reviewing the methods I know for a torn and restored bill and I think this is actually the best. Its really easy, a decent price, the angles are great, it works with a borrowed bill, and you end clean.

The set up- It will take you about 30 seconds to set up each one, although if you set it up the way Dan recommends (if you can find the product he likes) then you can set up a bunch in advance and reset privately in about 3 seconds.

I was unfortunately among the people unfamiliar with the exact product he recommends, although I assume in a day or two someone will post a link to it on Amazon in the discuss section. For now its a 20-30 second reset for me with the other type of set-up. It seems to last in my pocket fine but I'm not sure how long you can keep it set up safely.

The angles are very good, but I don't think I'd want to do this surrounded. Although you can mostly cover for behind you will flash slightly. However if you are performing walk around, you don't need to worry about someone walking by seeing exactly how it works.

The visuals on this trick are fantastic. I can't think of a better torn and restored bill. For some reason torn and restored bills have always been way less visual than torn and restored cards, which is unfortunate because its much stronger to do magic with a borrowed bill than your own card. This one is much closer. It really does look like you took their bill, ripped it, and restored it without anything funny that looks like a switch.

I am also going to add that I don't think Dan's justification for the card makes sense. How many laymen know that a card is made of separate layers that are glued together. For now I am sticking with comparing it to sawing a lady in half. Its not that big of a deal one way or another. The visuals are so good, and the card is gone so quickly you don't need to worry about it too much.

You should also just be aware that you will need to destroy two cards every time you do this, which is a small price to pay for such a miracle.

Dan's teaching is phenomenal as always. I'm sure you'll love this trick. Enjoy!



Note: I am going to agree that although you could I probably won't actually perform this walkaround and I doubt most other people will either. Its better for showing to a group of friends or a small show.
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I was reviewing the methods I know for a torn and restored bill and I think this is actually the best. Its really easy, a decent price, the angles are great, it works with a borrowed bill, and you end clean.

Except you don't end clean, IMO. The ditch used seems suspect to me. No reason or justification for the move/motion, except to ditch.
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Except you don't end clean, IMO. The ditch used seems suspect to me. No reason or justification for the move/motion, except to ditch.

All you're doing (as far as the spectator is concerned) is throwing away a torn card. I encourage you to believe that to be true and then you'll find no "justification" is necessary.

Regarding why I tell the spectator that a card is composed of layers glued together: this information is interesting. I don't expect them to know it. I expect to engage them with an unusual concept. And, it's true. And, it's something from their own lives that they probably never think about. I actually respect my audience's intelligence, and attempt to engage them at multiple levels whenever I can.
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Magic KL
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Thanks for the reviews~
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Too much set up for a worker, for one time with friends, maybe.

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I love the concept and so I purchased Kill Bill. I've made up three gimmick sets but I really don’t want to practice with those - so I plan to make up number of dummy gimmicks tomorrow.

One question for those performing this: Anyone else notice that it ain't easy to tear this thing in half?! I've been tearing cards just to see and all have been Tally Ho cards. Maybe they're thicker than Bikes? I'll work with Bikes tomorrow and hopefully those are easier.

Jim
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On Dec 4, 2016, The Baldini wrote:
Too much set up for a worker, for one time with friends, maybe.

Dave


I have to admit to finding this a slightly odd statement. Whilst it's true that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, if one has some spare old cards and the necessary something then the set up for this takes literally under a minute.

In fact, I reckon one could take an old deck of cards and make up 26 gimmicks (sans the part that is transferrable) in under 10 minutes.
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Carl,
thanks for sharing. I guess for me to use this at a paying gig. It would be too much for me to have to make up around 20.or more. But as I said, for a smaller venue or a party etc. it would be fine. I am not trying to be lazy and in fact, I enjoy projects. Time is my problem, not the tricks.But, I don't think I could do 26 in 10 min.
The trick is very good.

Dave
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Ah I get what you mean now. Well yes, if you were planning on doing it all night then it would be a hassle to prep I guess.

And I was way off on the time limit for a 'full' deck. Just tried it and it worked out at about a minute each, so 26 mins.

Ha...me and my big mouth.
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I'm thinking that you don't really need to perform this at every table. Instead of making up 20, maybe go with only 5. It's that possible for you?

Jim
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I may have to pick this up I agree just make up 5 or 6 for your gig . After watching the demo the heat is on the bill I would think the spectator would care less about the ripped card looks Great ! The Magic is the Signed Bill being Restored !
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Do you have to ruin a bill every performance ? If you just want to make it up for a one time performance can you use the same bill ? Or do you loose a bll every performance ?
Thanks,
Jeffrey
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You use the same bill.
So you ruin one bill, only once, and that bill is used thereafter.
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