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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
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On Dec 21, 2016, magic1178 wrote: Unfortunately in this instance - this is the case. The only way they would be able to know you shared it as a log, is by going on the Facebook page containing the video and then press share (which will get shared on your personal/business page going out to lay people, friends etc - as a basic example on Facebook) So your not a moron - they are. It's a shame like others have already said including myself - this share tactic is purely for money making and sales with WPR getting a cut for the promoting with no consideration for people who have already bought this and the complete danger of exposure making awareness this is just a trick app. Poor effort guys and disappointed to be honest. |
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
Just a quick question to anyone that has this... people are saying that when you have to look at your phone to get the peek then this is completely motivitated and wouldn't arouse suspicion. On the WPR Dave looked at his phone to get the peek but it wasn't motivated enough. I'm just wondering why this motivated action wasn't carried out on the performance???
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2198 Posts |
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On Dec 22, 2016, PRINCE wrote: I usually turn my back or do what Dave did and re iterate the number of words by looking at the phone again |
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
Please don't tell me that's the super motivational action that everyone is raving about?!?!
Surely there is another method for the peek that is completely justified and a logical move - that's people keep banging on about saying the peek (what ever and however) is so innocent, justified and logical??? |
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gtx magic Special user United Kingdom England 954 Posts |
[quote]On Dec 22, 2016, reignofsound wrote:
[quote]On Dec 22, 2016, PRINCE wrote: Just a quick question to anyone that has this... people are saying that when you have to look at your phone to get the peek then this is completely motivitated and wouldn't arouse suspicion. On the WPR Dave looked at his phone to get the peek but it wasn't motivated enough. I'm just wondering why this motivated action wasn't carried out on the show Yes prince it is motivated for example: before they do the search you want to show them how impossible a task it is by showing them how many article and words on Wikipedia and so you go to your calculator on your phone. That's one of a few ways. I can't say anymore for disclosure reason. Graham
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
Oh ok - but if you go to your calculator etc before they search for something, how would the word/article etc appear on your phone - if that makes sense? Not asking for methods but don't understand if a search is not done how you can get the info?
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
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On Dec 22, 2016, MDon 2233 wrote: Having now met Tarik Flash a couple of times at the magic circle I can tell you he is not a fake bedroom magician and is indeed a worker and with some very nice corporate work. He is also a far nicer guy than he would have people believe on here. Now back to the topic at hand. Before vilifying WMS and Marc over asking people to share this, remember that if you have a social media account with both magicians and laymen, it is YOUR responsibility to manage what you share with whom. Facebook provides the tools to enable you to limit a share to just magicians or just close friends or just family etc. We should not blame Marc or WMS if some people do not have the common sense to manage who they share this with. Mark |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
I agree with you Mark on both counts.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Asking people who do not own an effect to share an exposure of it on Facebook -in order to win the effect- is simply asking for trouble.
I don't understand why anyone interested in preserving magic secrets would suggest such a thing. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Thanks Mark 😊
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
In all fairness and need to point this out in defence of WMS... on their Facebook page it does actually mention about sharing for a magic group or friend only. So they have made the effort in trying to make awareness of only sharing privetly. But like mark stated above - you then can't blame WMS or Marc for people sharing to their personal page and not using their common sense. So thank you WMS for adding the additional comment about sharing privately only.
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JoelDickinson Inner circle UK 1578 Posts |
I haven't seen the video. Is the method revealed?
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
Not the method as such but identifies it's a magic app and you can get it from App Store etc, in dave's performance you can see and IMO see Dave look at his phone twice (peek the info) but the actions were not motivated or justified why there was a 'need' to look at his phone.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
The method is that it is an app. If that becomes public knowledge then it becomes useless.
I agree that Dave's "peek" isn't the subtlest I've ever seen, but I wouldn't think that would be a problem in the real world when you aren't stuck on a sofa being filmed by a static camera. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
First comment under the youtube video of the Blaine effect with Margot Robbie.
Josh Millls2 weeks ago Anyone know how he does this M1dnightSun2 weeks ago +Josh Mills You can buy the trick here. Don't complain to me about the price. I didn't make it and I don't know how it works. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wikitest-the-wiki-book-test/id1177870786?ls=1&mt=8 |
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
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On Dec 22, 2016, Aaron Smith wrote: Ummm yes they will and they do - especially if they know it is the effect the D B used (which is what they watched and thought how the F he did it etc - which if they search and come across this thread alone, which they could then they will additionally see this is the trick. It doesn't matter if one lay person discovers this and watches it or 1000 the fact is they ideally shouldn't be able to find this revealed so easily and readily available for exposure. |
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DynaMix Inner circle 1148 Posts |
I'm a huge fan of Marc's but that sharing contest was a huge mistake on his end.
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
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On Dec 22, 2016, Martin Pulman wrote: Totally disagree - the moment you pull out your phone out the alarm bells will start to ring and they WILL smell a rat UNLESS the reason for looking at your phone is 100% logical and justified!!! Anything outside of this you may as well not perform it as they will just come to the conclusion you some how got the info when you looked - with out convincing justification. If Dave or any of us copies the same action Dave did in the real world - this will not fly by. |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Dec 22, 2016, DynaMix wrote: We've been betrayed. |
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j100taylor Inner circle 1198 Posts |
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Totally disagree - the moment you pull out your phone out the alarm bells will start to ring and they WILL smell a rat UNLESS the reason for looking at your phone is 100% logical and justified!!! Anything outside of this you may as well not perform it as they will just come to the conclusion you some how got the info when you looked - with out convincing justification. If fave or any of us copies the same action Dave did in the real world - this will not fly by. That's the point with this app. The reason for pulling out the phone is justified. And boy does it fly.
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