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avasatu New user 97 Posts |
If you had to choose your top 5 most powerful card effects, in the specific sense that you feel they are the most deceptive to just about anyone watching, which 5 would you choose? Again, I am looking for tricks whose power is derived from their sheer deception, not necessarily from veins like spectator reaction and complexity.
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ThomasJ Special user Chicago 999 Posts |
The Professor's "Trick That Cannot Be Explained".
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts |
Memorised deck work is hard to beat.
You may want to give better parameters for your question e.g. from a shuffled deck, set up etc. |
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marc_carrion Special user 639 Posts |
Hi Avasatu, are you talking about the effect or particular versions of the effects?
As effects I would say: 1/ Open predictions (would we include the Trick That Cannot be Explained here?) 2/ Out of this World 3/ Card to Any location (to shoe, to box, to wallet,...) 4/ Haunted Deck Not sure what I put in 5th place... I was thinking about coincidences between spectators picks, maybe card travels, assemblies,... then for each of those 'effects' you have different versions, some self-working, some clean, some very devilish, ... Hope that helps |
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lynnef Inner circle 1407 Posts |
Really hard to judge 'top 5'. I tend to judge the strength of a trick by kind of saying "how did I do that?" ie When you hide a laugh at how clever it is (and sometimes how simple the deception is). Here's 5 of my favorites (can't say top 5 of all time):
1)the Visitor (Larry Jennings) 2)Reset (Paul Harris) 3)Jumpin Gemini (Darwin Ortiz) 4)Your Signed Card (bro. John Hamman) 5)Impromptu OOTW (Harry Lorayne) I realize I've left out many greats like Dai Vernon (as mentioned above), and all of the "Triumph" effects he spawned. Again, these are just a few of favorites. Have fun looking them up at the original source, Avasatu! Lynn |
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bobon Regular user Hyderabad .India 166 Posts |
Invisible Palm!!
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dapo24 New user 57 Posts |
Some versions of ACAAN get good reactions. Variations of the ambitious card not using the DL also amaze people. Version of triumph in which it is clear (or seems, depending on the version that the cards are going up and down in the shuffle. I'd bet torched and restored by Brent Braun, but I haven't done it yet, it's on my list of priorities
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
Just so you can't say that I didn't supply a list of five deceptive effects:
1. Haunted Pack (close-up) or Rising Card (parlor) 2. Out Of This World 3. A Routine with Pretty Color Changes 4. Mnemonicosis (Juan Tamariz's wonderful effect) 5. Card to Impossible Location Interestingly enough, each of these classic effects can be described in simple sentence or two. Now, a question. If you search YouTube, you can find some very deceptive versions of these effects. You can also find versions of these same effects where the only person being deceived is the performer. So, here's an interesting question to consider: What makes a magic trick deceptive?
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
-Leonard Bernstein |
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That1MagicGuy New user 61 Posts |
I would say Out of this world.
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Bella Dans New user Amsterdam 20 Posts |
The travelers card trick is the best. Easy to do, good for even large audience, and its impossible.
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avasatu New user 97 Posts |
I specifically didn't specify parameters initially. Loving the answers so far, and I agree with many of them! Now, for some parameters:
1) From a borrowed, shuffled deck. 2) From a memorized or partially/fully stacked deck. 3) Packet Tricks. |
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avasatu New user 97 Posts |
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On Dec 9, 2016, BarryFernelius wrote: Your question is interesting, and something I would care to discuss at length. I like to break down tricks into the following categories, from the spectator's POV: 1) Tricks with no logical explanation. 2) Tricks with only one logical, though highly improbable explanation. 3) Tricks with a small selection of logical and highly improbable explanations. Interestingly enough, I generally consider points 1 and 2 deceptive, though point 2 in particular is a spectral statement: there are varying degrees of improbability for a given explanation. How improbably must a suspected method be to be considered sufficiently suspected? I also realize my above dissection is not thorough or complete, as I have only recently begun to consider this question. |
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Micheal New user San Francisco 13 Posts |
Card under glass is a classic when it comes to deceptiveness.
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
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On Dec 9, 2016, avasatu wrote: To get started you might want to take a look at The Magic Way by Juan Tamariz, Designing Miracles by Darwin Ortiz, and/or Transformations: Creating Magic out of Tricks by Lawrence Haas. Any of these books will help you gain a better understanding of what makes magic deceptive.
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
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CrossMagic New user 34 Posts |
All of the effects on my upcoming DVD, although there's 11 so not all of them will squeeze into a top 5
Regards, Cross |
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qwerty71 Regular user 178 Posts |
1)Joshua Jay's Out of Sight
2)Blake Vogt Invisible Card 3)Simon's Prophecy Move Gimmicked deck like 4) Invisible Deck 5)Mirage Deck are also deceptive. |
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jaschris Loyal user 223 Posts |
A challenging question from Avasatu - with no shortage of answers. I always recall Bill Malone saying the three most powerful card effects in his opinion were Cards Across, Invisible Deck and Card on Ceiling. Ironically, I perform dozens of card tricks, but none of these. I do the card tricks I like and am interested in. The card tricks I happen to perform that get the most "wow" reaction are Anniversary Waltz and Bill Malone's version of Twins, a trick created by Brother John Hamman.
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Hudson892 Regular user Sheffield, UK 103 Posts |
Ben Earl has one of the most amazing effects I have ever seen with a borrowed and shuffled deck of cards that is so simple yet is so unbelievably fooling it is unreal.
And here's the best part, it is actually available as a free download on his website... For some reason I have seen no one perform it anywhere! |
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dapo24 New user 57 Posts |
As for deceptive it would most likely be some version of ACAAN in which the spectator deals the cards, Out of this universe, Search and Destroy by Aaron Fisher (sandwich effect that happens in the spectators hands - purely amazing). Depending only on how good your false shuffles are the Triumph can be amazingly deceptive (especially with multiple cards chosen/4 of a kind).
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greig ewen Elite user 473 Posts |
John Bannon - a View to a Skill.
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