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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts 
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Quote: On Jan 11, 2017, LobowolfXXX wrote:
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Jan 11, 2017, LobowolfXXX wrote: ? |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts
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On Jan 11, 2017, R.S. wrote: I'm not sure I agree with it myself. But it's a logical possibility, and Modern Empirical Science not only doesn't address it, but CANNOT address it. We need philosophy (or...ah...wait for it!...religion) to address such questions. It is entirely unscientific to assume that technology makes our world "better", because science must--it really MUST--remain silent about such questions, because they cannot be answered empirically. But I'm with you in the spirit of this thread. I think you and I are addressing several other threads in this one, which may be unfair to poor Slim, who doesn't seem to be making any appeal to reason. :) |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On Jan 12, 2017, stoneunhinged wrote: Which is to say, science does some things exceedingly well, and is completely unequipped to do other things well, if at all. As any self-respecting scientist knows.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 188 Posts
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On Jan 12, 2017, stoneunhinged wrote: Thanks Stone. Yes, it's a logical possibility. Anyway, "religion" means different things to different people. To some, religion is merely a certain philosophy/worldview embraced by a group of people in the spirit of community and collaboration, sans any deity (although perhaps embracing a "spirituality" of some sort). And of course, to others it is a set of tenets strictly tied to a particular god belief. There may be other interpretations of it as well. It's not clear how you're using the term here. If something can't be answered empirically, then the matter is necessarily subjective, no? Best, Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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If you're the emporer you can be empirical, else you're subjective.
Meh Or maybe they're just doing that to mess with you?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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That which makes people human is their imperfection and as a result of science, people are becoming inhuman, cruel.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Jan 12, 2017, tommy wrote: Nonsense. I expected better than pure rhetoric from you.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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The USA military has the most advanced technology on earth and it has consequently become the most inhuman, cold blooded, heartless, drone-like, killing machine on the planet.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Jan 12, 2017, NYCTwister wrote: rhet·o·ric <ˈre-tə-rik> n 1: the art of speaking or writing effectively Pure rhetoric - effective speech or writing – is laudable. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Nonsense is that which cannot be sensed by the senses and such is the spirit of a human being like magic. The audience members are there for is amusement and because they are there for their amusement, in the first place, to enter the spirit of the thing, they are willing to go along with the absurd suggestion which the magician makes. When at the climax the absurdity is proven it is the very absurdity of it that makes them smile. It is the element of absurdity which distinguishes our magic from charlatanry. Our magic is not simply magic but magic that is also funny because it is nonsense. Compare our magic to a science experiment; there is no spirit in science but only cold hard facts. The magics side of our magic is cruel because it is the cold hard facts of it. Our magic is human because it has heart and body.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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I was talking about your implying science is the/a cause of human cruelty.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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I thought you were talking nonsense.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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You should have been a politician.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Simulators such as Virtual Afghanistan use head-mounted displays to create “immersive, interactive environments.” With the help of clinicians in controlled settings, soldiers are able to confront traumatic memories in a process called exposure therapy. By recalling distressing episodes from their past, soldiers learn to habituate themselves to those fearful experiences. Games help them manage their negative emotions and troubled thoughts. In addition, role-playing allows veterans to direct the actions of different characters (a military spouse, a social worker, a soldier with PTSD) to gain perspective and self-reflection. These game-based therapies have shown promising results in alleviating mental illness, serving as a bridge to traditional therapies and dissolving the stigma that sees counselling as a sign of weakness. So this tech then would help killers overcome such nonsense as remorse feelings about killing people and so on.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/a....../280486/ 
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On Jan 12, 2017, S2000magician wrote: I always expect less than pure rhetoric from Tommy, but sometimes he surprises me.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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"language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content"
I was thinking of this.
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1340 Posts
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On Jan 11, 2017, Slim King wrote: That's what scientists do...
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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And what exactly do you think you have said above that has any "sincerity or meaningful content"?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts
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Has “technology caused more problems for the human race than it has solved?”
I would say yes it has. Now that’s not saying all technology is bad, just that we continue to say ‘back in the good ole days’ for a reason. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Science is limited simply because you can’t fix everything with a hammer. 
Tom
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