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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, NYCTwister wrote: Sorry, who's playing games, did you say? I didn't say antpytning like "Love it or leave it." I've got not problem with you staying as long as you like, and trying to effectuate any changes you want. I was simply noting that IF your conscience dictated that you not live in a "low moral ground" society, one option is that you could go to one of those regions where it's no worse, and "one could argue" better. Nobody is forced to stay in the USA. Which is, of course, one of the signs of a more just society.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, Salguod Nairb wrote: After I learned the 972 3-letter words and then they changed the Official Word List, I quit trying to keep up.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, RNK wrote: I believe he's saying that they're a part of humanity, not that they care about humanity.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, RNK wrote: Are you saying that the Pentagon, oil companies, and weapons manufacturers care about humanity?
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts |
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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, LobowolfXXX wrote: I only play Scrabble with people who have the same ignorance level; or slightly lower, than myself. So you're not invited.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, Salguod Nairb wrote: Three types of hobbies in this world...the ones I'm completely disinterested in, the ones I get totally obsessed by, and the ones I haven't been exposed to yet.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts |
After you have tortured somebody 183 times does it become a hobby or just a bad habit?
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
It makes you a sadist...
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote: I will answer your question about 10going free and 1 innocent with a question. What about a war that some consider not just? Yet we send 10's of thousands of our boys and put them in harm's knowing that many will not come back. Yet many do not feel it was a just cause. As far as the WMD I really believe the American public knows as much about that as we do the Assassination of JFK. Not that it matters as both are probably a need to know. Don't believe all of the transparency you read about. Not being a conspiracy nut here but be realistic. Also you are changing the discussion as it was stated that we KNOW not that we think or surmise. I am not going to get into a peeing contest as to how we know. That kind of arguments can make a discussion go on forever. If we had Osama bin Laden in custody he would know what we asked him just because of who he was. Again I am not about to get into that part of the discussion. Quite honestly I am not worried about being better than those we fight. I am concerned of winning against those we fight or we would not be fighting them in the first place. Before we got involved we made the decision that we are fighting for a cause. There is nothing worse than coming in second in a two contestant fight. Let me give you a hypothetical situation and answer it honestly for me. Suppose you are in a family feud for years (Hatfield and McCoys style) and you sit down one day and negotiate with one another and decide that knifes are abhorrent and you both decide that you will never use a knife on one another to defend yourself but everything else is in play. Years go by and you get into a hand to hand altercation with this enemy of yours and he is on top of you choking you and you are definitely going to lose and die. But you have a knife in your reach which would end it for him. What do you do? Answer truthfully. If anything is ridiculous it is this statement of yours: "And torture on a case by case basis is a ridiculous thing". Just about everything in our legal system is based on a case by case scenario. Another nonsensical statement: "Also you have never provided a real life example of sone one having info on a ticking bomb". ----I am not privy to this information. I or you are not in a position of need to know. And if it was done it would be kept quiet because of people like yourself who would probably have a march and protest because hundreds of peoples lives were saved but the instigator's was treated badly in order to get the information. Do the math. Subway bombings, chemicals used in large crowds, USS Cole bombing. I could goon and on. I any of these could have prevented I have one thing to say. DO IT. Again I talk about the proving of a negative. How many do you believe have been prevented but you never heard anything about them because of what some people would start if the information that prevented it was gotten by torture?
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
IF torture is to be used it should be sanctioned. Meaning, a Judge signs off on it, the entire thing is recorded, and if the person is found to be innocent - the torturer is charged with assault.
More so, the Judge would have to justify his approval to an oversight committee and be held accountable if found that he acted with poor evidence. The main thing is to have accountability. I think you will find most people willing to participate without solid facts being in place.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
Guilty as charged. Please don't torture me.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, Salguod Nairb wrote: I never knew that. I never knew of a judge signing off on torture.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts |
For the USA the CIA used waterboarding on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times.
Speak of Devil https://www.channel4.com/news/archbishop......elations
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, acesover wrote: Never would. Well, that's not 100% true... if you had say kidnapped one of my nieces and she only had so much time for me to find her... Yea I would put a hurtin' on you. But, I would turn myself into the police after she was safe and be accountable for my actions.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, Salguod Nairb wrote: and more than likely not convicted of anything by a logically minded jury. You definitely don't want a trial by judge.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
I would plead guilty from the go.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts |
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2017, Salguod Nairb wrote: Coming from the guy who has "0" posts. Just having fun with you.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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