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Having just watched Keith Berry (On MTV's Brainwashed) hack mentalism into what I can best describe as "BAD" B rated mental magic that isn't suitable for walk around at Denny's, I have a new respect for Blaine.

Why is every one trying to make mentalism and magic in general into A David Blaine production. Blaine is Blaine and that's it. The dry presentation adds to Blaines persona, but I fear that Keith has dropped the ball in his TV special.

He is presenting Pk Touches without any patter or script, he presents a badly hacked "Lift", and just about EVERY presentation is dry and without any patter. He went to a magic shop said: "What're the best mental effects?" learned how they worked, threw out the patter, added no thought and presented a dry, lame example of restaurant magic.

PLEASE, if anyone is making a TV special out there and they're not Blaine, don't try to be. And learn to be comfortable with each effect, and MAKE THEM YOUR OWN! Or, better yet, do your own stuff. Banachek should be weeping on his keyboard right about now.


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Or better still give me a call and I will do it for you...just because Im a nice guy..
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Personally, I DON'T like Blaine's persona, but that's not to say I don't respect him.

I think he's done a heck of a lot to bring magic back in the media (like Derren Brown), which can only be a good thing, in my humble opinion.

Dr Z - I agree with your comments. There is only just about enough room for one David Blaine on this earth.
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Yes I agree totally. I'd rather watch and stare at a wall. At least my wall would not be something that it cannot be.
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Hello there,

Indeed.

'Street magic' has quite a lot to answer for. Not David Blaine, but the Blainite automatons that seem to appear on a weekly basis. Don't get me wrong, I respect anyone that has practiced their craft and made an effort. I enjoy seeing how different people handle different effects, but it is really frustrating to see magic presented in the 'check this out' monotone ramble that can't even be conidered presentation.

Max Somerset, for example, uses his musical talent and general performance skills to REALLY blow people away. He makes effects his own and even has a dry pop at dry Blainite impersonators.

And when I sit down and watch Lennart Green or Derren Brown I am in awe. I feel compelled to develop my own skills to levels I hadn't thought of. I laugh out loud and force my wife to sit through endless runs of the same effect gleefully cheering 'but watch this bit!'

I know what I would prefer to see, but then again, maybe some are just happy with 'shazam' - 'can you feel the magic' a la Bo Selecta.

By the way, Blaine's Persona, in my opinion, works for him.

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On 2004-03-30 11:09, carlomagic wrote:
I laugh out loud and force my wife to sit through endless runs of the same effect gleefully cheering 'but watch this bit!'


LOL Carlo! I know exactly what you mean! Mrs Withnail has the same problem. See you in the divorce courts buddy Smile
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By all means, BLAINES PERSONA WORKS FOR HIM, not others.

I have reread my post, which is a rarety for me, and realise I was harsh. Keiths work was well very good technically. His magic was very entertaining. His accent was a bit, annoying, but I'm from Chicago what do I know.

I just cringe at the thought that some day I'll be performing these effects, maybe on television, and no matter what routines they are encompassed in, they will still amount to a parlor trick seen on MTV. CRINGE!
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Some have said Barry's clipped style was perfect for the short-attention-span, Spring Break, Empty-V crowd. You can't expect a bunch of tipsy, sunburnt beach bums n' bunnies to sit thru too much patter, I guess.

My problem is his off-the-dealer-shelf approach to presenting the stuff, even giving the marketed names for his effects on a website! Plus, I can't help but think his special was a pre-emption of yet-to-be-seen specials from other prominent mentalists.
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Lets hope more mentalists are to come. The us isn't too tv friendly to mentalists.

I do believe there are at least a billion anchoring concepts he could have used to get a better reaction. I spend lots of times doing magic in bars, infact I have a stage show on monday nights now! Yippee, anyways, I have to compete with the same scenarios and think it could have been a stronger mentalism performance once again the magic was cool!
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Dr. Zodiac..I'm going to be passing thru the area soon, where is your Monday night show at?
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I perform certain Mentalist effects at two restaurants here in NYC and I find that the set up is different than slight of hand. Blaine's dry presentation works for him b/c bells, whistles, and fireworks aren't needed for a mentalist effect. So I think that presenting a mentalist effect without too much patter can add to the effect. But God save me from boring patter!
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I happen to like Blaine and his style. I also saw Keith on tv and I thought he was very good. Maybe it's because I'm still young and not an all out pro in the field of mentalism, but I don't see a problem at all with either of these guys, I like to watch them. And Chris Angel too. I think if you're good you're good, no matter what you do or how you do it.


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AH! I wish this wasn't so public of a forum, I have to watch what I say. But, in mentalism 100% of the effect is in the presentation. Its not a stumping puzzle to be pondered and though of as a trick. Mentalism is the grey area which hits you on a personal level.

Now whats more entertaining:
OK, did you feel something? 2 taps? But I tapped her not you.

or

The banachek patter about a dead uncle who still visits and save his life on occasion by tapping him on the shoulder, you know the rest.
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I agree with Anabelle. As far as those guys create great reactions in real people, I respect them.
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I thought is was a nice spin on PK touches and the reactions of the spectators was very positive. His presentation for all was appropriate for the audience.
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Hey Dr. Zodiac, guess you may have missed my last post, I'm going to be passing thru Chicago area and wondering where your Monday night show is and times.
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It must realy be annoying to watch other b grade performers $@#! up your creations. It is a pity that by buying the secrets it seems to give 'magicians' the right to just go out and perform with no regard to the consequences, most times with little or no practice.

I had the fortune of watching Marc Salem perform on Saterday evening. Living in South Africa we are not often exposed to mentalists from abroad. His act was just over two hours long and was entertainig and mystifying, it is the firs full mentalism act I have seen. The show had its humourous moments as well as the suspense a good actor would create in the minds of his audience. The show was aptly titled 'Mind Games'

I am sure that we must have some fine talent in our own country, I just have not yet been exposed to it yet as mentalists are few. I hope this post will serve as an invitation to some of the well known performers in this field to visit our beautiful country (if I am not mistaken Banachek lived in S.A for a while).
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Yes he did, and he was born in the uk if I'm correct.
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I think South Africa will contribute a LOT to the magic fraternity in the next decade or so. We are some of the most creative nations out there.

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