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mndude Special user 879 Posts |
I love Sucker Die Box and the reaction it gets. I was wondering what othe similar "sucker" tricks that really set up the audience are out there.
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ceme20 Regular user 161 Posts |
The Sucker Die Box is a great one for sure. It also gives you an excuse to own a beautiful effect. I purchased one made by Mell Babcock many years ago, it looks fantastic just sitting in the display case! Another sucker trick I love performing is the Back Stage Vanishing Elephant. The kids really love it.
The Magical stage parallels that of the Stage of Life. We can step off, re-direct, and Create new Miracles as easily, and as naturally as taking in a breath...
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Magic from A to Z Elite user Sweet Home Alabama 482 Posts |
Just to name a few... Hippity Hop Rabbits/ Soapy Suds/ Pom Pom Sticks/ Silk to Egg
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Paul Rathbun Inner circle Michigan 2543 Posts |
IMHO, Silk to Egg is THE most powerful sucker effect.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
There are dozens of tricks that can be presented as a "sucker trick". The problem is that too many magicians don't really know HOW to PRESENT a "sucker trick" so that it doesn't create a "put down" situation with the audience.
Some so called "kid show magicians" fill their prop case with as many standard "kid show sucker tricks" as it will hold, and, go to the "party". Karrell Fox and I had a session, years ago. "SOFTENING THE SUCKERING", was the topic. I wrote an essay, in my book, about the "Three 'types' of sucker tricks", and, how to present them, so that they get a big LAUGH, and APPLAUSE. I open my program (Kindergarten thru Senior High Schools, + College, and Senior Citizens) with a 'soft' sucker trick. --High school SENIORS love it! --They realize, at the end, that, I'm going to fool them, WITHOUT MAKING FOOLS >OF< THEM!
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Dear ceme20!
The Die Box is NOT a beautiful EFFECT! A Die Box is a PROP. An EFFECT is what the spectator perceives when a magician PERFORMS a TRICK.
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ceme20 Regular user 161 Posts |
Yes you are absolutely correct! I apologise for miss phrasing that. You are also correct in the way sucker tricks should be presented. I have never personally liked the phrase "sucker trick". To me performing magic is as you say meant to create laughter and draw applause. Not to diminish nor make anyone feel foolish.
It also may remind a few if not more that magic indeed is around us always. I enjoy peferforming for Seniors as it can bring out the "child" that still resides within. To remember that magic exists always in life is the greatest reward I could ever bring to anyone. To realise that magic really comes from within is the greatest gift we can bring to ourselves...
The Magical stage parallels that of the Stage of Life. We can step off, re-direct, and Create new Miracles as easily, and as naturally as taking in a breath...
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Your apology accepted!!! hee hee
I'm retired. A couple years back, the "Swedish Club" (local group of old folks) booked me for their monthly dinner. I'm now 85. After the act, an old timer walked up, and said, "I remember seeing you when we were both high school kids! --IT'S STILL FUN!"
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
I like the 'Your money to my pocket' effect the best. Spectator starts with money and I end up with it. The name or working of the sucker trick isn't important as long as it works well.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
Colour changing bottle in paper bag with Nielsen vanishing bottle.
Great even for adult. |
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mndude Special user 879 Posts |
Colour changing bottle in paper bag with Nielsen vanishing bottle.
Great even for adult." Serious? There's such a thing? Where can I find this? |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Norm Neilsen sells several different bottles. Ketchup, beer, Champagne (I think!) etc. He sells just the props!
is referring to a "stock" routine that can be done with the prop(s). Do a search for Neilsen products. They aren't cheap, but, they are well made and last indefinitely.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Insert "Ssucahyo" in above. He's the guy who is referring.......
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
I am surprised that no one has mentioned the classic Color Changing Silk by Patrick page or Half-Dyed Silk by Billy McComb.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Saludos friend Mendez!
In my post above on February 7, I mentioned opening my school show with a "soft" sucker trick. It's the color changing silk. Senor (Charles) Mardo taught me how to use the d*e tube in July of '47 in the old Bob Stull shop in San Francisco. I had just spent 75 cents for the tube. The salesman handed me the gaff, and a 2" x 4" "sheet" of instructions. I was 16. The shop was full of local magicians (Saturday afternoon). I didn't know anyone, and was being ignored by the adults. As I walked to the door, a middle aged gentleman, caught my eye, and asked if I knew how to use "that". I said, "No sir! but, I'll go home and read the instructions!" He said "Give me that. Do you have any silks?" I handed him the gimmick, and a couple 15" silks. He spent 20 minutes, teaching me the basic techniques! I thanked him, and left. I've used that trick, since! Both Pat Page, and Billy McComb were very good friends. I like their handling of the CCS trick very much, but, I have my own presentation, which fits ME! It did take me a couple years to find exactly the "right" way (for me)to present it, but, I did. (I've worn out a "few" tubes, and a "whole bunch" of silks in the almost 70 years since Senor Mardo was so kind to me! Five years later, I met Mardo again. I tell that story in my book. I was able to thank him again, and return his kindness.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
PS Did you know my late friend, Claude Crowe?
I lectured for the San Antonio Ring (or, Assembly) about 15 years ago. O
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TheMightyRicardo Loyal user 225 Posts |
Little Door by Roddy McGhie can be presented as a sucker trick.
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
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On Feb 19, 2017, Dick Oslund wrote: Thank you so much for sharing this with me. I find the history of our art so fascinating. Claude Crow was a friend, fellow member of Ring 18 and a major loss to us all. I'm a relative newcomer and just missed you when you came to lecture. |
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
POP your just the best.
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