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colinj New user 77 Posts	Posted: Mar 3, 2017 11:46 pm 0 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Roslyn wrote: How does this compare to Phantoms of the Card Table by David Britland & Gazzo? It doens't really compare to Phantoms of the Card Table. It is an annotated PDF and a reprint of the original EATC plus 8 hours of video lessons. Phantoms was about Walter Scott.
GeraintClarke Special user 661 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 12:11 am 0 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Lempereur wrote: Fellow Illusionists: Having personally been involved in 2 segments of entertainment marketing over the last 28 years, I must say that this is a brilliant piece of marketing! It utilizes the pseudo shock aspect, combined with a persona of a WWF bad guy boaster! I would venture to say that the ellusionist folks were behind the initial round of parodies, having them in the can before the "Official Trailer" was released. Simply Brilliant! When you can get your potential customers AND haters advertising for you, you have achieved the ultimate in Guerilla Marketing! Tell that to Tim Cavendish from Page 1 of this thread
Montana76 Inner circle I hope I one day reach 1177 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 01:02 am 0 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Lempereur wrote: Fellow Illusionists: Having personally been involved in 2 segments of entertainment marketing over the last 28 years, I must say that this is a brilliant piece of marketing! It utilizes the pseudo shock aspect, combined with a persona of a WWF bad guy boaster! I would venture to say that the ellusionist folks were behind the initial round of parodies, having them in the can before the "Official Trailer" was released. Simply Brilliant! When you can get your potential customers AND haters advertising for you, you have achieved the ultimate in Guerilla Marketing! Hmm... Blah blah blah... not a good product.. blah blah blah...
Lempereur New user 85 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 02:53 am 0 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Montana76 wrote: Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Lempereur wrote: Fellow Illusionists: Having personally been involved in 2 segments of entertainment marketing over the last 28 years, I must say that this is a brilliant piece of marketing! It utilizes the pseudo shock aspect, combined with a persona of a WWF bad guy boaster! I would venture to say that the ellusionist folks were behind the initial round of parodies, having them in the can before the "Official Trailer" was released. Simply Brilliant! When you can get your potential customers AND haters advertising for you, you have achieved the ultimate in Guerilla Marketing! Hmm... Blah blah blah... not a good product.. blah blah blah... ers I didn't say it was a good product, I said it was great marketing! If this sucks, it will cost ellusionist long term customers. Cordially Yours, Jim Rose
Montana76 Inner circle I hope I one day reach 1177 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 03:00 am 0 Thanks!
Lempereur New user 85 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 03:03 am 0 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Richard Kaufman wrote: Yes, he has our attention. We think he's foolish. Are you going to buy from someone like that? NOT ME. Mr. Kaufman: Sadly, you are correct. This product is being marketed to those under the age of 30. If you are over 30, you tend to be somewhat turned off. If you are over 50, like myself, the odds of buying this product is about 5%. My fascination with this product is the marketing. Jim Rose PS: Are you THE Richard Kaufman of "On the Pass" among other spectacular books and DVDs? Cordially Yours, Jim Rose
Karl M Inner circle 1276 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 08:48 am 1 I just ordered one because I tryed to read the erdnases book but it was a bit boring to be honest and I think this project will bring it all to life a bit and I like DM style a lot so it shkoud be good I think
TuneHV Inner circle New York 2067 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 05:38 pm 0 Https://youtu.be/PXy9dNj6jps Regardless of your opinions, this is funny.... David Jonathan - - - - - - - - - www.davidjonathanmagic.com
catweazle Special user 924 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 05:47 pm 0 FAF
RedDevil Inner circle Deep South 1315 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 07:33 pm 0 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Lempereur wrote: If this sucks, it will cost ellusionist long term customers. Hmmm.... www.reddevilmentalism.com F-F-U-L-Ri-F-F-Li-R-U-F-F
Tom Wong Loyal user England 291 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 08:20 pm 0 Someone buy this for me. Please. Mentalistry \| Providing quality products to Mentalists across the globe www.mentalistry.com
catweazle Special user 924 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 08:22 pm 0 Lol, see you gotta buy it to see if he is right or not
Chamberlain Special user 629 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 08:24 pm 3 Bring back the old Ellusionist days with the whole matrix vibe and the women dancing around warehouses doing kicks towards the camera.
pelicantrapper Regular user VA 193 Posts	Posted: Mar 4, 2017 09:41 pm 0 Quote: On Mar 4, 2017, Chamberlain wrote: Bring back the old Ellusionist days with the whole matrix vibe and the women dancing around warehouses doing kicks towards the camera. haha Yes please. The good ol days
Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts	Posted: Mar 5, 2017 02:41 am 0 I literally cried by laughing so much in the Ladanye video - thank you jason NEW BOOK! "Semi-Automatic Miracles" - INSTANT Best-Seller at Lybrary.com https://www.lybrary.com/semiautomatic-card-miracles-p-925333.html chaos handlings, out of hands effects, and more
Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts	Posted: Mar 5, 2017 03:28 am 3 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Lempereur wrote: Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Richard Kaufman wrote: Yes, he has our attention. We think he's foolish. Are you going to buy from someone like that? NOT ME. Mr. Kaufman: Sadly, you are correct. This product is being marketed to those under the age of 30. If you are over 30, you tend to be somewhat turned off. If you are over 50, like myself, the odds of buying this product is about 5%. My fascination with this product is the marketing. Jim Rose PS: Are you THE Richard Kaufman of "On the Pass" among other spectacular books and DVDs? Yup--still doing the Pass and writing books! But nothing about Erdnase, thank you very much.
1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts	Posted: Mar 5, 2017 04:01 am 0 **** you, Daniel Madison.
Fatgumbo Veteran user Melbourne, Australia 342 Posts	Posted: Mar 5, 2017 04:11 am 0 Well if Daniel wanted to become the most talked about figure in magic currently... he certainly succeeded
Exitmat Special user 641 Posts	Posted: Mar 5, 2017 01:07 pm 0 Quote: On Mar 3, 2017, Lempereur wrote: Fellow Illusionists: Having personally been involved in 2 segments of entertainment marketing over the last 28 years, I must say that this is a brilliant piece of marketing! It utilizes the pseudo shock aspect, combined with a persona of a WWF bad guy boaster! I would venture to say that the ellusionist folks were behind the initial round of parodies, having them in the can before the "Official Trailer" was released. Simply Brilliant! When you can get your potential customers AND haters advertising for you, you have achieved the ultimate in Guerilla Marketing! Nice little fantasy you got there. A group of geniuses that had enough foresight to anticipate exactly how everything would play out and filmed a bunch of footage ahead of time to be released as their master plan unfolded. Yeah, sure buddy.
CarlMcCoy Elite user 465 Posts	Posted: Mar 5, 2017 01:23 pm 1 Daniel Madison's persona, is exactly that: a persona. What he says and how he says it is designed to elicit a response from others, pure and simple. DMC interviewed him some time ago and the interview is very revealing in the way Mr Madison comes across, right down to how he talks compared to his trailers / videos etc. I find it funny that many are quick to bash but can't seem to find the few minutes it takes to google him and visit his website where a lot of the explanations they seek are to be found. He's an interesting guy, that's led an even more interesting life and is pretty *** good at what he does.
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