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markis
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Has anyone tired these? Thinner than the originals.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S22119
Bill Hegbli
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There is advantages and disadvantages to very thin plastic type cards. As the promo indicates, they remain straight, depending on the person's finger width, that can cut into the fingers. I have trick normal plastic cards and they do not react the same as paper and cardboard playing cards.

The pastel colors most likely will not show up well, and make much of a difference when viewed from a distance. Put a spot light on them and they would not show any color at all.

The price makes them the most expensive around, I just would not spend more then $20 for a manipulation deck. No matter how wonderful they are.

Would have to handle these before I could make a decision, and $30 is to much just to try something out to see if it works for me.
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Nick W
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Its interesting because manip cards are touted as thinner or non bendable or whatever the case may be. But I found a quality in regular bee cards that no manip deck has=stiffness. with a stiff card I am able to produce/pop the card into view with minimal finger movement. cant do that with thin cards. also, because I have trained my hands with bee cards, there is actually too much muscle in my hands which overpower a full deck of manip cards. so to answer the question whether or not a manip deck is good or not, you have to have many hours of experience to know what will work for you and what wont.

the downside to manip cards for me other than their lack of thickness, is you really cant handle them like regular cards. they don't shuffle, spread and spring like normal cards. so for me, bee brand cards are impossible to beat. but this has come after years of R and D. so take it for what its worth...
Bill Hegbli
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I have no problem shuffling Lance Button, Million, Juliana Chen, and other plastic coated manipulation decks. I have not problem with them at all.

For me I find he all plastic, unsatisfactory more manipulation purposes. They do not have the spring necessary because the "give in" and accept being bent or curved.

If they have no snap or spring, then how does Juliana Chen get such loft and height out of them.

The advantages of Manipulation Decks over regular playing cards out weight the bothering with them.

Bee were never a manipulation deck, in the old days, they used Steamboat playing cards. These decks were very cheap, and smooth finish, not coating of any kind on them. No comparison to the Steamboats of today either. They had a back design similar to Bee's, with the cross lattice diamond back design.

Do to people not doing their research, those not in the know just assumed they were Bee decks, because of the back design. Thus we have people on the Café giving false information that they are the preferred manipulation decks by magicians. When in fact, they have not relationship what-so-ever.

Even here on the Café a person gave a member a several decks of the real Steamboat's from the years ago.
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Also, if your Bee decks have stiffness, then you did not read Ganson's method for preparing a deck for manipulation purposes. Jeff McBride went over Ganson's process in his video on preparing cards. Although, he uses a ruler instead of a round pencil.
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Dick Oslund
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Good information, Bill!

I broke in my white gloved card manipulation routine, in 1951, with a Bicycle "Fan Back" deck. I used the Ganson "method" for preparing them. I used an octagonal pencil.

I used drug store white "allergy" gloves. They worked just fine.

A few years later I was able to buy a few decks of the OLD STEAMBOATS. Wow! They were wonderful!
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Nick W
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Old steamboats are missed indeed. really what all this comes down to is practice, real performance and time. that's the only way anyone is gonna know what works for them and what doesn't.
Bill Hegbli
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I just use 2 decks of manipulation cards as one deck, an get a lot more productions, and less steals. Producing 104 cards without a steal, means an endless looking production.
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The Cardfather
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I'm a fan. I won't use anything else until something better comes along.
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So to the peapole that have used these cards, are they really that durable can you buy a deck and use it for years without needing to replace it.


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From now on manipulation cards are no longer expendable props” Yu ho jin
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