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That was a movie. You know the difference right?


Writers get their ideas from the news and conferences. Meaningful ideas come in context. I'd prefer to use easily referenced fiction as time markers on ideas in the public discourse here. No inconvenient facts to trigger the no-cents typists. Smile

The issue regarding personally identifiable data in borrowing has been with the library institution for a long time - ask your local librarian. http://www.ala.org/advocacy/proethics/co......deethics The notion of there being ways to get around that presumed ethical code has been with us at least that long. On the phone side to locate people and their communications - see the ATT wiretapping discussions from back then - so let's take basic information culling as a given. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/nyreg......tml?_r=0

Just found a fun book: http://boingboing.net/2017/03/09/amazons......a-b.html

Oh my lord. You seriously think obviously Independence Day was a documentary right?
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Does anybody here have a clue what this pair are talking about?


OMG. Pot meet kettle.
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You were talking about coming out against “fake news?"
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You seriously think obviously Independence Day was a documentary right?

I don't recall making any such Claim. In popular dialog it might be the first film showing how vulnerable computers ate to malware..
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Does anybody here have a clue what this pair are talking about?


We were talking about the way rights are being stripped away in the name of the "common good".

I tried to teach old Ace what he could have learned, but refused; or was unable to.

He's a product of his indoctrination; totally lost.

He thinks he's safe. Because of who he is he thinks he's special.
It's not his fault really. He thinks the history he learned in school is the true account. He thinks what he's told by the mainstream media is the truth.
He honestly thinks that his side really cares about him. What can you do when someone is that naive?

He said "winning is the only thing" Regardless of whether you cheat, lie, or torture.
Doesn't matter - they hurt us so we have to hurt them. If some innocents get hurt, oh well.

I could continue to try but what's the use? He'll just continue to obfuscate, use literary devices incorrectly, and then go turn on Fox News to get his truth.

It's us or them; morality be dammned.
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Does anybody here have a clue what this pair are talking about?


I got as far as the Cravats and Jingo Bells


That's not the song.

I made up the lyrics with some of my friends, who understand the truth; and what this country is supposed to stand for.

I'd post them, but I'm getting bored; and I don't want to get banned.
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Does anybody here have a clue what this pair are talking about?


We were talking about the way rights are being stripped away in the name of the "common good".

I tried to teach old Ace what he could have learned, but refused; or was unable to.

He's a product of his indoctrination; totally lost.

He thinks he's safe. Because of who he is he thinks he's special.
It's not his fault really. He thinks the history he learned in school is the true account. He thinks what he's told by the mainstream media is the truth.
He honestly thinks that his side really cares about him. What can you do when someone is that naive?

He said "winning is the only thing" Regardless of whether you cheat, lie, or torture.
Doesn't matter - they hurt us so we have to hurt them. If some innocents get hurt, oh well.

I could continue to try but what's the use? He'll just continue to obfuscate, use literary devices incorrectly, and then go turn on Fox News to get his truth.

It's us or them; morality be dammned.


As I have said, "My work here is done". Now I might add. It is time for your education to start. Wake up and smell the roses.

Just an addendum. As far as morality goes don't even go there I have been in discussions with you about morals and morality a while back and unfortunately you seem to lack them. You seem to believe morals go out the window because of your rights. But let's not go there and start another non winnable debate.

I must have said this a hundred times. Believe what you want, and do as you please. Just do me no harm and we will get along.
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Fine, have the last word.

Just remember that I told you so when your hero betrays you; as he's in the process of doing right now, in front of your eyes.
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Would you guys get a room and save a video of your politically charged angry intercourse? /b/ or facebook - whatever.

In the mean time - how's the reading on this latest trove of "how to" ?
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I'm too busy watching the Planet of the Apes marathon. As we know it must be true because the writers get their ideas from somewhere.
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I once saw that movie on the history channel. Really. Then again it's no biggie that SyFy shows wrestling... and I'm still waiting for Rod Serling to show up on the news with his "submitted for your approval" line.

I'm just playing nice and referencing things that we can easily and openly discuss without getting fussy or technical ... trying to build bridges. Science Fiction writers are on the lookout for interesting places to put characters and suitable tricks they might use to solve problems. For example the many-worlds idea was tapped for "Mozart in Mirrorshades" by Bruce Sterling, then again by Neil Stephenson for "Anathem" and Charlie Stross for his Merchant Princes books ...also William Gibson for his story "The Peripheral". Each author used the notion differently to build worlds for their characters. Point being that it started as a response to something in proper physics which in turn was a response to something in philosophy a few centuries earlier. Ideas serve context.

Apes being dolts in denial with lower technology (and health issues... ) obvious authorial intent for the movies, the book author had a different idea about a parellel evolution where to them, the idea of us hairless creatures becoming intelligent was absurd and amusing.
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Culture is a state of mind, which is essentially fashioned through entertainment. The CIA used entertainment to fashion the culture you have today, which is in a word, decadent. The CIA created stars for you to follow. Therefore, then, you are the Planet of the Apes; monkey see monkey do.
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Culture is a state of mind, which is essentially fashioned through entertainment. The CIA used entertainment to fashion the culture you have today, which is in a word, decadent. The CIA created stars for you to follow. Therefore, then, you are the Planet of the Apes; monkey see monkey do.


Any hope left?
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Tragedy and Hope is a good book.
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Would you guys get a room and save a video of your politically charged angry intercourse? /b/ or facebook - whatever.

In the mean time - how's the reading on this latest trove of "how to" ?

Do you have a problem with this statement? "I must have said this a hundred times. Believe what you want, and do as you please. Just do me no harm and we will get along."
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We know things are bad — worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore.
We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is: 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.'
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Would you guys get a room and save a video of your politically charged angry intercourse? /b/ or facebook - whatever.

In the mean time - how's the reading on this latest trove of "how to" ?

Do you have a problem with this statement? "I must have said this a hundred times. Believe what you want, and do as you please. Just do me no harm and we will get along."


I'll wait for the video.

In the mean time - how's the reading going on this latest collection from wikileaks?
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Will WikiLeaks finish what Kennedy started?

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/lead......e2ecefa3
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? Tommy - what would you suggest in its place?
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I don't know.

Perhaps by somebody with a sense of humor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiONzm0Nwdg
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